Roy Keane says planned talks between referees and managers are pointless.

The Sunderland manager says the League Managers' Association's (LMA) idea of bringing officials and managers together in an effort to revive the FA's Respect campaign is not the answer.

Following a meeting of the LMA on Monday, a meeting will be arranged with referees' body the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) to suggest a new approach. However, Keane, who is facing an FA charge of improper conduct following comments made to Martin Atkinson during the 5-0 defeat by Chelsea on November 1, is unsure that is the solution.

"We should be trying to respect the referees anyway, we don't need a PR stunt to try to do that," he said. "I know there was a meeting yesterday with the LMA and the managers - I declined the offer to go.

"It wasn't a great space, so I decided not to go after my disagreement with officials over the last few weeks.

"It is very difficult, I have to say, and the referees have got a difficult job. I have said that on more than one occasion. But this idea of sitting down and talking about it, I am not sure how much good it is going to do.

"But having said that, we have to keep trying to find a positive way of getting around it. Officials will always make mistakes and that has not been a problem.

"The problem I have had is the big mistakes always seem to go against us. Football is an emotional game, we shouldn't forget that, and we get frustrated with it."

Keane insists he did not swear at Atkinson - the same referee criticised by Joe Kinnear at the weekend - and maintained his calm, and was therefore surprised to be charged.

"I had that a few months ago at Manchester City's ground. [PGMOL chief] Keith Hackett was there and Rafa Benitez and Paul Ince and Gareth Southgate, and we discussed the referees.

"Do I need to sit down again and talk about referees? There comes a point where the talking has to stop."