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Fernando Alonso was sensationally stripped of his pole position for the Hungarian Grand Prix late last night and saw it handed to McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton. The Spaniard was docked five places on today’s starting grid after he deliberately held up the emerging British superstar in yesterday’s final qualifying session.
McLaren will also forfeit any points towards the constructors’ world championship as a result of today’s race.
Race stewards ruled that the Spanish double world champion had “unnecessarily impeded” the Briton, who leads him in the drivers’ championship by two points, preventing him completing a final flying lap by blocking the team’s pit box towards the end of qualifying.
The top 10 drivers in the qualifying session are given a final 15 minutes in which to race off for the leading grid positions and Hamilton had posted the fastest time when, with about two minutes of the session remaining, both drivers entered the pit lane for a fresh set of tyres. Alonso was first to reach the McLaren pit and Hamilton waited behind him for his turn. But when the Spaniard received the all-clear from the mechanics, in the form of a raised “lollipop”, he unaccountably remained stationary for about 10 seconds before setting off.
Alonso went on to snatch pole position with a time of 1min 19.674sec, which beat Hamilton’s previous best by 0.107sec. The Briton, meanwhile, was unable to cross the start line before the end of the 15-minute session, missing out by just a few seconds, and so could not challenge the effort of his teammate.
Alonso and McLaren were found culpable by race stewards at the Hun-garoring. “The actions of the team in the final minutes of qualifying are considered prejudicial to the interests of the competition and to the interests of motor sport generally,” they said in a statement.
“Because of the delay caused by Alonso, Hamilton was unable to complete his pit stop in time sufficient to enable him also to complete a flying lap,” it continued. “The stewards find he [Alonso] unnecessarily impeded another driver, and he will be penalised by a loss of five grid positions.”
Hamilton, the 22-year-old from Stevenage, had exchanged angry words with his team boss Ron Dennis as he returned to the pits, reportedly saying: “Don’t ever f****** do that to me again!” Dennis replied: “Don’t ever f****** speak to me like that again!” Hamilton delivered a final riposte: “Go f****** swivel!”
Alonso said that he had been ordered to remain where he was by his engineer over the team radio to find a gap in traffic. “They do the calculations, they find the gaps and I just drive the car,” he said. The incident will heap yet more pressure on McLaren, who in recent weeks have been involved in a spying controversy with rivals Ferrari. McLaren have confirmed they will appeal the decision and have two days to voice their protest after the race. That, though, centres around the threat of constructors’ points being deducted as there is no provision for reversing the decision regarding Alonso’s grid penalty.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised to see the people defend what Alonso did. Even if Hamilton did behave disgraceably in the qualifying session it certainly does not make what Alonso did any better. In fact, it was really naive to think that he could block another driver, especially when doing it in such an obvious way. I do symphathize with Alonso in that he must have been incenced in the way Hamilton disregarded team orders and hampered him in the way he did.
However, it is really unfair to say that Hamilton is the cause of Mclarens troubles this weekend. It rests squarely on the shoulders of Alonso, and Mclaren for explaining things that were obviously not credible (so much for Ron Dennis's integrity!). Alonso's actions, an act of revenge, is the cause and a double WDC should be disciplined enough not to behave in such an obvious and childish way.
Jens, Reykjavik, Iceland
I don't favor either driver. Hamilton has been a sensation as a driver and deserves that label. Alonzo has been a world champion twice, against the great Schumaker and Ferrarri team. This makes a true champion.
For a rookie (Hamilton) to curse his mentor of many years, to curse someone who has invested so much for his future as a driver and, not the least, his employer, is an absolute outrage. All he can say is "I apologize and it's over." This is complete arrogance.
Hamilton also refused to comply with an order from his team, causing problems for Alonzo. It is then not suprising for Alonzo to retaliate. After all, he didn't become a champion by letting anyone by. In this case, it was a mistake, but not a grave error.
Hamilton's behavior was not only selfish, but he showed no respect for the person who was responsible for his drive or his team. If that part of him does not get controlled, he will never become a champion. He will sabotage himself.
Andy Zem, BALLWIN, USA
Alonso is not going to win the championship this year, the FIA & McLaren have decided that Hamilton must win (all british). There are going to do anything necessary to achieve this. Last night decission is an example, if Alonso were the british representative this would have never happenned.
Joseph Buckley, Letterkenny,
Let´s not be stupid, they are both great pilots, but FIA has gone too far with this penalisation. Alonso was obeying team orders, previously Lewis had been requested 7 times to give way Alonso to acomplish the team tactic, and he didn´t obey. So Alna Baldwin you´d better check your information before writing anything, what about going to the race track and check it yourself, instead staying at the hotel´s bar.
Sincerely, I do hope Alonso beats Lewis, he deserves it.
Anthony, Manchester,
I see no information about Hamilton's six times disobbedience to team boss for not leaving Alonso overpass him as Ron Dennis decided. I am quite surprised to see how you do defend Hamilton at any price, even over fair information. I love McLaren but pressure is forcing them to go down step by step and Hamilton is not the one to keep it on front.
david sergalex, Munich, Germany
People keep saying that Hamilton disobeyed team orders and Alonso was just following team orders. Team orders that favour one driver over another are against f1 rules. Hamilton is driving for himself but Alonso is expecting his team to help him beat Hamilton. Race stewards spotted this and rightly punished him
chay, eastbourne, UK
If is an English who has to win the Championship, then just shave everybody all the races... let's give Hamilton the Championship without delay. It's just pathetic! Formula 1 is a business and one worker can not ignore his manager or director orders. Alonso is not of my sympathy, but he just done what the team order him. Why did McLaren punish Hamilton with this extra time delay? â Because, Hamilton was supposed to allow Alonso go first and Hamilton ignore his team orders. There are very evidences about FIA preference of Hamilton over Alonso or other pilot, if not what the hell was doing a crane helping Hamilton?
Jorge, Valencia, Spain
Ron Dennis says Hamilton triggered delay: âWe have various procedures within the team and prior to practice we determine how it is going to be run, what our strategy is, and how thatâs going to be enacted on the circuitâ
âThey were out of sequence because Lewis should have slowed and let Fernando pastâ
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40282
Manuel, lanzarote, Spain
why you guys are a bit more partial and accept that the drivres just follow the order of the engineers and not blame aur Angel ALONSO for follow ingineers instructions.GOD BLESS ALONSO
DAVID, london, spain
Dock Alonso 5 places? Why?
He just followed orders from the team!
It was Hamilton the one that didnt obey team's orders by overtaking him at the beginning of Q3.
I think it is so unfair
Alberto, Spaniard, in London
Hamilton is a weeping baby
Pedrusco, London, UK
Hamilton is a really really good driver, but he is so focused in winning, that has damaged not only Alonso, but the whole McLaren team this weekend. Definitely Racing is a team sport. Lewis should remember that.
Tapia, Madrid, Spain
I couldn not agree more.
Juan, Barcelona, Spain
It seems that The Mclaren team is in a self destuct mode
Robert Green, Bridport, Dorset
I believe neither Hamilton neither McLaren would stand at this point without Fernando Alonso. In this specific race is Hamilton who did not respect his team instructions & not Alonso. So I really do not get why Alonso has been penalized. Neither I get why the FIA suddenly has changed his mind. This is what really looks like a "Sabotage" to the Spanish driver.
S. FERNANDEZ, MADRID,
Alonso was following McLaren orders when he waited in the pit lane, as Ron Dennis admited. I think that kind of information is relevant enough to be mentioned in this article. What do we find instead? "Alonso pays for dirty trick"; "after he(Fernando) deliberately held up the emerging British superstar"; Fernando had âunnecessarily impededâ the Briton; "he unaccountably remained stationary".
David, Asturias, Spain
The Mclaren team sure knows how to shoot themselves inthe foot. I am disappointed by the newspaper article failing to confirm whether Alonso's engineer did infact tell him to wait. We, the viewers, from time to time hear the radio transissions btn the teams and their drivers. Surely the journalist should have confirmed thru these radio transmissions or directly with McClaren if his engineer told Alonso to wait. We can only infer from the docking of 5 positions that Alonso's excuse is a lie.
Even if Alonso had been told to wait, surely he should have allowed Hamilton to get his tyre change. Based on the few facts here (dare I say, poor journalism), it appears Alonso wants to win unfairly and at all costs.
Jimmy T, Johannesburg, South Africa
One word Alonso is a cheat, his action turn my stomach, the man as not one honest bone in his body. Anyway well done Lewis.
Tony, Kent, England
hey,
let´s make easier, Hamilton fans. Next race we send Alonso to 22nd place. Ok?
shame on you. If you don´t have talent, we kill the rest. It´s so obvious for the rest of the world...
vince, manchester, UK
I think our super star LH has got to believe it. We are really not talking about Alonso's fault this time as it was LH who did not follow his team instructions from the beginning. It is out of question (Ron and the team confirmed it) that Alonso only followed his team instructions. You may hate him or love him, but it was not his fault even if the F1 have decided to support LH against his team and his teammate.
LH will now shamely end first in Hungary. He may be British, young, funny, good looking, first black F1 driver... certainly fast...and spoiled... I don't like him any more
Tommy, Bristol, UK
is incredible jam broke internal rules about one more lap ,in this gp was to alonso ,and turn off her radio, insult to ron and then the team decides this one more lap to alonso in pit and the fia sancionated alonso
santi, santa cruz, españa
It's ridiculous.
An incident involving two drivers of the same team receiving orders from the same team... and one if the drivers is punished and the other one is pushed up to the top.
josemaria alberola, vitoria, spain
It seems that the particularly British disease of "put our sportsmen & women down" has spread to New Zealand - unless Anthony is a Brit, of course.
Anyone who has taken even the tiniest bit of interest in Hamilton's pre-F1 career will know that he has a prodigious amount of talent. The fact he combines this with a Zen-like calmness, a clear intelligence, and (so says my partner) damn good looks; it's fairly obvious why so many Brits hate him. His success is their failure.
Alonso has, more & more, been behaving like a petulant child. Hamilton is better than him - and he knows it - and it's only his greater F1 experience which has been keeping him above Hamilton. By the end of the season, I expect Alonso will be a distant second.
I do agree with Anthony on one thing though - Alonso SHOULD leave McLaren; indeed, he should leave F1 altogether. The sport - any sport - has no place for spoiled brat children, and Alonso is showing he has that quality in spades.
Ade, Wallasey, UK
Another disingenious explanation by Ron Dennis and McLaren of a situation, the truth of which was obvious to all?
No amount of warbling on about the issues around 1st qualifying gives a plausible reason for that 10 second delay where Alonso, and Alonso alone made a decision.
Enough said, but is it just me who is so over Ron Dennis - Mr Impeccable?
David, Auckland, New Zealand
Hamilton to win a race has to do two things: driving extreme (and sometimes crashing his car) and get illegal support of FIA or McL. Alonso makes a normal drive and win. That´s the diferecence.
My only hope is McL get exclude from the champinship (it´s a inmoral team on account of spying Ferrari) and Alonso can go to Ferrari.
But Hamilton doesn´t deserve the F1 worldchampionship. I´d be ashamed winning with illegal support. as him. British fair play???.
Javier, Madrid, España
I don´t understand one thing. If Alonzo was just following orders why is he punished? Whose really the fault? The team? Hamilton? Alonso?
victor abellon, geneva, switzerland
I'm very disappointed with Hamilton's behaviour. I think he's losing quickly the admiration of many F1 fans. He ins't being so much sportive disobeing team's instructions.
If a driver awaits deliberately at the pit lane to damage another one, he must be sanctioned. But seems to be that this is not the fact that ocurred, because McLaren has recognised that it was a team order caused by Hamilton's indiscipline.
Frank, Alicante,
It's very sad but I think that Hamilton is mistaken and McLaren have many problems with him.
Alonso are good person and best pilot, he don't deserve this treatment.
He wishes to win the championship but without harming to his team.
David, London,
Your article does not mention anywhere the post race press conferrence of Ron Dennis telling "the whole truth" ??-that the fault was totally with Hamilton who repeatedly disobeyed team orders and who eventually created the box situation.He also staed cataregorically that in no way was Alonso to blame!
So now the FIA decides that Ron lies?
Strange they did,nt decide that he also must have lied abourt the Ferari spy affiar?AH, but that would have also been prejudicial for the Hamilton wonder boy who it is so obvious that Mr Ecclestone and his backers would like to win the championship-- by any means.
carers, urrugne, France
Hamilton is more than capable of keeping the childish Alonso behind him than most people would think.
There is no doubting Alonso's skill, but under pressure he seems to turn into a spoilt brat & his failure to keep young rookie Hamilton behind him has shown just how close both drivers actually are.
They are both experts, otherwise they wouldn't be in this team.
The team has gone up because of the work done by everyone at McLaren, not just Fernando, so your point is invalid.
Chris Binns, halifax, west yorks
I agree with Anthony, Cmaden Town, NZ
I am looking forward to Alonso leaving McLaren so that Hamilton can be left to win the championship in peace. I'm sure he would be prepared and capable of leading the team without a petulant child driving beside him.
Alex, Salisbury, UK
I have sympathy for Alonso, & I wish the press gave him more decent coverage, rather than focus on him when he can be cast as the bad guy. I'm sure this wouldn't have happened unless it was a management decision.
philip, cambridge,
Hamilton win today thanks to FIA. If he wins this world championship, It'll be thanks to Dennis, not because of his sport attitude.
I'm sorry because I think that this type of bad guys (Hamilton) will do that people don't like this competition anymore.
Pino, Los Barrios/Cadiz, Spain
The trick was a team decission. Hamilton was not following team orders and he did by himself. Alonso was supposed to be the one give last extra lap.
Hamilton did not follow team orders. A team decission punished only one man (Alonso), Why?
British press and british influences in Formula1 are too strong to accept its new start 'Hamilton' is defeated by a Spaniard.
Alonso, pls go to Ferrari ...
Rodrigo, Pamplona,
Funny, how at McLaren the engineers have the say when it comes to when and how to drive the car... however, when the chief engineer has acquired data through industrial espionage nobody else is influenced by it.
Sebastian, Perth,
Well done F1 ,Alonso is caught out for the professional dive in the penalty box and given the yellow card. What are the odds on the two drivers remaining at Mclaren next year? less than zero! which driver will be at Ferrari next year?
John, Manchester, UK
I bet Alonso wins today...and Haminton is not going to bear the pressure...
This way all the Hamilton boys will have to shut their mouths down...
JAVIER RUANO, MADRID, SPAIN
To me it's all about respect, when you sign the last two world Champion it's because you want to be the champion AGAIN. Hamilton is a great pilot with still a pile of stuff to learn and demonstrate. Hamilton words to Ron Denis just show he does not respect the team because in first place surely he does not respect his boss, he does not understand his role in the team. I hope Alonso leaves because clearly is what he should do. Maybe BMW wolb be better for him.
Roberto, Manchester, UK
Alonso has done what he has always criticized, he has a good driver at home who makes all difficult for him and every day is getting more nervouse and what happened yesterday is a clear example.
Nuria y Javier, Salamanca, Spain
I think that LH is a great driver perhaps better than FA (although I think that he needs a little of experience), but I can't undersand why he doesn't win the race in the track. Has LH fear of FA? After the incidents of this weekend the question is answered. I hope that in the next races we can see a fair fight between the two drivers.
Teresa, Madrid, Spain
How can both (team & driver) be guilty? Was it a conspiracy against Hamilton? Obviously not!!!! So why is the driver punished when he only didnt what he was told to do?
I believe it's unreal to compare this incident with Schumacher's in Monaco. where the driver was responsible of everything
peter, london, UK
Why don't you mention that the extra lap in qualifying season that usually drives one of the pilots alternatively belonged, in this case, to Fernando? And why don't you mention that Haminton went to the track first when it was planned that Alonso did?
I am a bit tired that Hamilton is helped once again. He is a good driver, yes, but FIA and McLaren are spoilting him.
blas, Madrid,
Alonso got his just deserts for his blatant unsporting behaviour yesteday in Q3.A pity the stewards did not make him start from the back of the grid.F1 does not need this prima donna.
Tim , Es Castell, Menorca
What you donât mention at all in this article is that Lewis Hamilton was the one who disobeyed his team instructions. No Comment.
Maria, Tenerife,
If Hamilton was from Burundi this wouldn't had happened. It is stupid. There are two subteams in McClaren, and Alonso only follows intructions. I wish Mercedes buys McClaren and all these brit pirates go out. Half world hates USA and UK, I was not one of them but know I am not sure...thieves will be always thieves
Kike, Luchon,
Hamilton is not capable of leading the team at McLaren if the tales are to be believed the set up information gleamed from Alonso's car is used on Hamiltons. I agree that the current situation is a farce and despite being a McLaren supporter I believe that Alonso should depart for Ferrari as soon as possible as it appears that in the teams eyes LH is the future - as to the exchange of words between Hamilton and Dennis I'm sure Ron will inflict some penalty on the boy.
neil, edinburgh, scotland
McLaren team and Alonso pays for Hamilton dirty trick.
Pedro, Valladolid, Spain
You have to take into account that Alonson has anything to do with this situation. It is obvious that Mc Laren is on the side of Hamiton. I just want to say that sport this way is not sport...... when there is so much money on the table, anything is clear....
Of course, Alonso will win the championship. Fernando, Spain is with you!.
ANA SALAMANCA, LA RIOJA, SPAIN
I think that Hamilton has to learn discipline. He will be the best driver, but today he has to obey the orders of McLaren. According to the Team, Alonso wasn't guilty of this incident. Hamilton spent the race disobeying the orders. Both are excellent pilots, but have to live together in McLaren.
Luis Miguel, Madrid, Spain
It is interesting that they found Alonso (Great Champ) guilty of unsporting behaviour. He gets penalized. The Mclaren team is found guilty by the FIA and nothing happens to them?
Jan, Johannesburg, South Africa
Q-Why Dennis is so angry with Hamilton?
Q-Why we didn't see "Incident involving cars 1 and 2 will be investigated"?
Q-Is Alonso so stupid to do that deliberately and remain so happy?
Q- Every championship one or the other racer has an extra lap. This one starts Q3 ahead. This championship was the turn of Fernando. Why does Lewis start ahead?
Q- Do you think that the lollypop man know the information of traffic?
Q- What if your team says 6 times that you've spent all your laps for today?
Q- If Lewis would have obeyed the orders from McClaren, would be us speaking about anything?
Maybe some questions are subjectives, but maybe there is something suspicious too. Something that only can be hold by a crane.
Niko, Quatretonda, Spain
It is all very sad. Louis is too good to be remembered as "tricky Louis". I hope they fix it for the sake of this fantastic sport.
J. Sarroca, Barcelona, Spain
Dear Anthony, NZ: Hamilton IS leading the team, Alonso is playing 'catch-up'. Don't let bias cloud the facts. Why else would Alonso pull such a stunt?
pete thompson, Rapagnano, Italy
UNFAIR.... Alonso gets punished just because he followed the orders taken by his team. If the strategy of McLaren was holding him in the pits for find a gap in traffic...Wich will be the best to do...that Alonso sacrifacy for the best of Lewis??? Go with traffic??? I don´t get it...
Mary, Toronto, Canada
I think Hamilton is a very dirty player,and he will pay this affront in front of Mercedes' leader!!!!
Figue, Madrid, Spain
There is should be no room for cheats in F1 motor sport and I think the rules should be harder - Alonso should be banned for the Hungarian race. This gravity of rule should also be applied to any driver, including Hamilton, who cheat or attempt to cheat.
...Alonso is losing it and quite clearly feels unable to beat Hamilton on the race track and so has to resort to dirty, unsporting tactics off the track. He has had his just deserts and does not deserve to have the chance to re-gain his title again. Millions of people watched Alonso act in this shameful manner, of which there is no justification. F1 Motor sport needs cleaning up!!!
Shaun, Bodorgan, Wales
I used to follow F1 but all of this soap opera really dissapoints me. FIA should do something to clean the sport because a lot of people now believe that it is more rigged than US wrestling. Is this a serious attempt by racing to reach the bar set by the Tour de France and major league baseball? On this summer of bad sport behaviour we don't need more of this. Even though it feels pages and pages of newspapers and blogs, it takes the enjoyment sport. There is no trust anymore and it is killing the sport.
JUAN JARAMILLO, PLANTATION, FL, USA
Team orders are against F! rules. Alonso followed them and impeded another driver and was punished. Hamilton ignored them and was not. i don't see the problem
Chay , Eastbourne, UK
99% of people out of england find that Mc Laren and FIA are benefiting Hamilton and damaging Alonso. And another 20% - 30% of British people declares the same, against the natural trend to blindly support your compatriot . Enough to be utterly clear.
ORÃCULO, New York,
I am as patriotic as the next man, but I find Spaniards making comments in support of Alonso based purely on his nationality a little puerile. They are both great drivers, Alonso behaved in a very unsportsmanlike way. What I am more interested in is whether or not he was following team orders. I doubt it - surely Mr. Dennis knows the pit lanes are monitored by the officials and would have kept the lollipop down rather than just telling him to stay out? I doubt we will ever know
Alasdair MacDonald, Southampton, Hampshire
Well it seems that this year we're having a British world champion no matter what.
I'm really sadenned by the partial stand and dislike of the British press against Alonso. It has come to the point that their reporting shamelessly manipulates facts and distorts the truth. Please, take a look at some French or German papers, and you cannot but notice.
I was someone who really thought that Hamilton's world championship would greatly benefit F1... Now, I cannot but help thinking that his victory will be tainted by this sort of partiality on his favour by the FIA.
J. Simon, Madrid, Spain
My goodness, Flash News: Drama in Motor Racing, How could that be?
Another spanner thrown into the wheel of Formula One Motion.
Let's hope we do not have one of those "push and shove" like Senna's McClaren (them again?) on a Benetton in 1990, or the tentative "blocking" of the underpowered Damon Hill's Arrows on Jacques Villeneuve's Williams on that same "unable to overetake on the twisty Hungaroring track".
Thanks a bunch for the F.I.A stewards and their creative minds.
Ahh, if only they could work their magic on those unruly drivers congesting the roads around the world.
D. HINOJOSA, brighton, Great Britain
This isn´t a sport anymore.Alonso had the chance to get an extra lap this time,like the spoilt boy in other gps.Hamilton didn´t let Alonso pass him ,why?..The only person who would have to be punish is Lewis.Because of his behaviour yesterday the team didn`t take points and Alonso had to fight out of his real options in this race. Surely do you think Hamilton was faster than Alonso on the race today?Alonso would have won for sure!There are a lot of strange things around this guy and always favouring him,that´s why i say this isn`t a sport anymore. 'Some people' are looking forward to see how Hamilton wins the Champinship,dont you notice?
Y bravo por Ron,i like the way Ron told the truth defending Alonso.Go Alonso,i´m not a fan i just say what i see.
Jose, Santander, Spain
What about the problems between Dennis and Hamilton? What about the press conference in which Ron Dennis told clearly what really happened? Was your journalist there or was he speculating about the truth? Alonso did nothing wrong, his only mistake was to sign a contract with MacLaren.
Ralph, Cuenca, England
What a shame...FIA and Dennis want Hamilton to win anyway...IMO they are too frightened of Fernando, the actual number 1 and world champion. What would they do today if Hamilton is not going to win? will they cross a hurdle to allow the Briton to win? or will they create a new and specific article about "special situations to help a pilot"...next year when the Spaniard is in other team, we will see who rules...what a lack of respect!!
Kelly, Newport,
They don`t know what to do to help Hamilton, but don't worry, alonso is going to win the championship because he is clearly the best. Puxa Asturias!!
Juan, Asturias,
I didn't know this was the Spanish Times!!!!
Why the LIMITED number of British posts?
Is it because they support Hamilton and not alonso....
Tony, Newark, England
Sometimes one really is ashamed to be a Britisher on having read the English press and his manipulations. Only it is necessary to read the foreign press and see what really happened. Hamilton does not deserve the championship. Mclaren should be hard with him.
Will, London, UK
alonso can't anything wrong!!!!!!!
If as been often suggested by some Hamilton has been COPING alonso's set up how come Hamilton has more points? Surely the driver who set SHOULD be able to get the results with them?
Tony, Newark, Nottinghamshire
Hey, Spaniards, don't be silly.
Cranes, rules, whatever. The (British) World Champion has been already decided.
Let be realist, it is the moment to bet for Hamilton.
Jjj, Spain,
For once, I was pleased to see the anger of Ron Dennis show when we weren't aware of the whole situation just after Qualifying. We've always been used to that silly grin he has when his team does well, but when he was Interviewed after the Race itself, I genuinely felt sorry for the bloke & I don't recall him even sounding pleased Lewis had won the Race, apart from his comments about feeling tired & his objective to underline parity within the Team. Hope he gets a decent nights rest on Sunday Night (as he deserves it).
Simon O'Donovan, Nottingham, England
Were the same (predominantly Spanish) people moaning when Hamilton had to to lay off Alonso in Monaco?
And as for this copying rubbish - how can copying a driver's settings (nothing illegal anyway) result in the copier being better than the driver copied? Equal at best, but if he's better it's because he's a better driver. Maybe Alonso should copy some of Hamilton's settings??
simon , Valencia, Spain
Ron knew that the stewards were looking into this incident and wanted to keep both his cars on the front row, hence his statement that it was Hamilton's fault....the stewards did not believe him as does most of the world----except for Spain----
Hamilton has said that it was his fault, but then again he would--- the BOSS is always right and McClaren are going to be appealing the lost of constructer points..
Hamilton has stated that he is learning who he can and CAN'T trust........this says alot!!!!
T Hobson, Newark, Nottinghamshire
Such a pity a promising racer like Hamilton ends up like this. He has probably sentenced himself with this kind of behaviour. Maybe he was still too young to face F1. R.I.P.
Ignativs, Valencia, Spain
I couldn´t be more agree with you. I hope Fernando leave this team to another (cuold be ferrari) and then you all will see who is the best. Without Alonso McLaren didn´t do anything last year. See you next year with a real team supporting his best driver.
Jorge, Madrid, Spain
Rychard Plymouth... I don´t udertand what you mean with "Hamiltn is nº 1 asset and Ron Dennis might like to remember that" I thought that at the begining english people say that Alonso and Hamilton should be treat in the same way eventhough Alonso was the first pilot (?)
Alonso just follow team orders... The Radio told him to wait...
By the way haven´t you seen all the dirty tricks Hamilton have done... for instance all the extra help he gets...
Rocio, Madrid, Spain
It's incredible. If I had spoken my boss (not a simple little boss, but the upper boss, CEO or something like that) that way, I would have last no more than 3 minutes in being kicked out of the company. Hamilton has shown he is a spoilt boy, who doesn't know to thank Ron Dennis for his support all these years, nor to respect the team strategy, even when Fernando has done it with him in previous GPs as agreed internally.
But I don't care, Fernando will leave McLaren and then we'll see how Hamilton drives the team and the car to both drivers' and constructors championships. Of course, he will not.
FJ, Barcelona, Spain
Hamilton = "el trampas" cheater. Good pilot but not very fairplay. Nothing will go wrong with him, he has got the FIA to give him a little help or his "daddy" to look after him.
Jav, Blackburn, UK
And now Hamilton is angry with all the people in McClaren. Unbelieveable, angry why? He has no excuse to be angry, he has rejected the team orders. The team should be angry with him. He should has been punished and De la Rosa put in his place.
Alonso rules!
Bullitt, Spain,
If I were Alonso I would do my best to make McLaren lose the championship. He has nothing to lose as the driver's championship is already decided by the ma-FIA. Next year to another team a let's see a spoilt child doing all the setup of the car (of course, with his father's help). I`m looking forward to seeing Ron Denis face.
Gonzalo, Madrid SP,
Lewis Hamilton has the potential to be the greatest ever driver in the history of the sport . If Mclaren don't recognise what they have then they will lose him very soon and by treating him the way they have they will deserve it as well.
Tell Alonso that he is second driver (because that is exactly what he is) and get on with it. If he doesn't like it then tough.
Wilson Learmonth, Kirkwall, Scotland
There is a small detail nobody is taking into account. Let's see: during Q3, Hamilton was holding the fastest lap time when Alonso did that long stop at the pit and AFTER THAT, Alonso got the fastest lap and the pole. Does this mean that Alonso is not only an extraordinary driver but also a future-teller? Did he use his superpowers to know for sure that he was going to get the pole at that last lap? Wow, amazing!
Unless Alonso or his team were using a crystal ball to know that their supposed "dirty trick" was going to be successful, it is stupid to think that Alonso did anything different than following the team instructions in order to avoid excessive traffic when leaving the pit.
Sart, Grenada,
VIVA ALONSO
Ana, Madrid,
It isn´t sport..there are many politics ambitions and Ferrari is so interested about Maclaren losing points and only it.Ferrari doens´t have conditions to blame Maclaren cause they has made worse things along F-1 history. That "James Bond case" could be planned by Ferrari to prejudice Maclaren too! it´s a possibility to think about for sure!
..about Alonso and Hamilton they are great pilots with good possibilities to win and it´s only a question of rivality..the two of them wanna be the champion so things like that are normal...as used to happen with Senna and Proust!
FIA couldn´t punnish Alonso and Maclaren cause Michael Shummacher used to make worse things than it and nobody punnished him!!!! but of course FIA has a great explanation for that, cause lately Ecclestone has had dinner with Briatore and Jean!
in fact Maclaren is the best team but as we can see there are higher powers as Sir. Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone, Ferrari and Renault that aren´t interested about Mac´s success!
Vanessa, João Pessoa, Brazil
It isn´t sport..there are many politics ambitions and Ferrari is so interested about Maclaren losing points and only it.Ferrari doens´t have conditions to blame Maclaren cause they has made worse things along F-1 history. That "James Bond case" could be planned by Ferrari to prejudice Maclaren too! it´s a possibility to think about for sure!
..about Alonso and Hamilton they are great pilots with good possibilities to win and it´s only a question of rivality..the two of them wanna be the champion so things like that are normal...as used to happen with Senna and Proust!
FIA couldn´t punnish Alonso and Maclaren cause Michael Shummacher used to make worse things than it and nobody punnished him!!!! but of course FIA has a great explanation for that, cause lately Ecclestone has had dinner with Briatore and Jean!
in fact Maclaren is the best team but as we can see there are higher powers as Sir. Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone, Ferrari and Renault that aren´t interested about Mac´s success!
Vanessa, João Pessoa, Brazil
Come on guys, am I the only person who thinks both drivers come out with their reputations a little tarnished after this weekend.
Hamilton disobeyed team orders and Alonso resorted to underhand tactics by not leaving the pits quick enough and delaying Hamilton.
I can only base by opinions on the footage shown on television and the reports in the media, as well as reading between the lines. I dont actually know any of the people involved and neither I should think do the majority leaving opinions on this site, oh to be a fly on the wall in the Mclaren garages.
However I am passionate about F1 and enjoy watching both Hamilton and Alonso drive.
I am trying not to get drawn into a petty Spanish vs British slanging match which I can see developing. Although perhaps it is just people being patriotic?
Some of the conspiracy theories are interesting but I dont believe them, am I being naive? They would be good if the X Files did a F1 special though.
Annmarie , Northampton, , England
Mr Alonso follows the team rules and is punished while Mr Hamilton's actions are rewarded. What would have happened if that ' eventful weekend (L.Hamilton) ' had followed an other-way-round pattern ?.
Espionage, intrigue, plots and magic. Maybe a good title for Mrs Rowling... " Young Lewis and the Order of FIA-nix". Order, did I write ' order' ?. Does Mr Hamilton know what an order is?.
O what a fall was there. my countrymen
Then I, and you, and all of us fell down,
Whilst bloody treason flourish'd over us
(Julius Caesar III, 2)
David, Soton,
Pit-lane sabotage?? Do you listen Ron Dennis? Why english press is so liar?
Good Hamilton, if you can´t beat Alonso, you cry to FIA... good driver, but wicked boy. (And a traitor)
7 points, i would see Lewis without Alonso´s set-ups.
Cyril, Hendaye,
The action(performance) seems to me to be outrageous both of the FIA and of the gentleman Lewis Hamilton. There has remained demonstrated once again the hatred that the FIA has towards Fernando Alonso. Here, the only one that indeed deberia to be punished is Lewis Hamilton since desobedecio the orders of team, you prop, with his disgusting actucion, has achieved that his own(proper) team is punished without being able to count. Hamilton you are the crooked one, kid,and crybaby he learns of the big pilots as Michael Schumacher, and Fernando Alonso.
Emma, London,
I can´t understand How someone can trust Hamilton He´s been help all the time, Last year RENAULT was first in the champion cheap, Who change? MCLAREN only broked cars and now, is first and clasification, You now what has changed?, If you don know I tell you de answer, ALONSO. Is improving every team that he joins. Please don beleave that Hamilton is crucial in the victories of MCLAREN
MALAGA, malaga, spain
I believe that the careers(races) on the part of Hamilton are not gained(earned) in the offices but in the track Still this English boy has to learn many things of cleanliness of game
rafael romero, madrid,
It's a shame. I don't get it. Who cares anymore about his driving. Hamilton will end up with a title in his hands, a title given by the FIA with decissions like this last one. I don't even get how you guys can still support him. I also hope Alonso gets out of this team full of Anthoy Hamilton's tricks.
Hope to write about Alonso's win in a couple of hours. Hamilton, use the stewards again to get back in the race. It's the only thing you are able to do.
Daniel Cerrada, Madrid, Spain
Alonso you are the best... Go ALonso Go!!!!
Rocio, Madrid, Spain
Alonso we are with you. Good luck
Rocio, Madrid, Spain
It is interesting that they found Alonso (Great Champ) guilty of unsporting behaviour. He gets penalized. The Mclaren team is found guilty by the FIA and nothing happens to them. It must be an English thing!
Jan, Johannesburg, South Africa
Fernando will be champion this year. It´s the best driver. Hamilton is a good driver but Fernando is the present. The truth and the justicie will be with you. The next year in BMW or Ferrari.
PUXA FERNANDO!!!!!!!!!!!
Irene, Asturies, España
Mclaren, hAmilton and FIA= MAFIA
Peter Fansaw, london, england
The way McLaren do things is absolutely disgusting and Fernando Alonso does not deserve this kind of behaviour. This lamentable team and maFIA had demonstrated their kindless and Alonso should abandon McLaren as soon as possible.
Alvaro, Santander, Spain
I feel ashamed after reading the comments posted in this forum by my fellow Spaniards. If the incident had been the other way around, Spanish fans and media would be attacking Hamilton on any possible ground, as they did whenever Schumacher pulled out one of his customary dirty tricks. Shame on my countrymen that they show such lack of memory and sportsmanship.
Abel, London, UK
What you donât mention at all in this article is that Lewis Hamilton was the one who disobeyed his team instructions. No Comment.
Maria, Tenerife, SPAIN
how do the british press is going to defend hamilton now?what are they going to invent?less patriotism and more information, i just hope that this incident convince fernando for going to any other team where he can be estimated as he deserves.
david, algeciras, spain
Hamilton's bad looser rants will cost his team the constructor's title and most likely the drivers title as well. Ron Dennis is the boss first Hamilton has to do is respect his boss and mentor which paved all his career.
J. Guerrero, Lichfiedl, Staffs. UK
Alonso twice champion, do not forget it
Toni, Valencia,
It seems unfair that Alonso gets punished just because he followed the orders taken by his team. If the strategy of McLaren is considered "prejudicial to the interests of the competition" then both drivers should be relegated in the grid. Alonso just respected the team orders, and of course did not yelled the f-word to his boss.
b., Spain,
It is interesting that they found Alonso (Great Champ) guilty of unsporting behaviour. He gets penalized. The Mclaren team is found guilty by the FIA and nothing happens to them. It must be an English thing!
Jan, Johannesburg, South Africa
I think Mclaren intentionally sabataged Alonso by holding him in the pits an extra 10 seconds knowing that Alsonso would be punished and thus helping "THEIR" boy Hamilton. Alonso was getting too close to Hamilton in the points championship
so something had to be done.
Greg Nichols, Chicago, America
Why don't we just stop the competition and give Hamilton the title, never have I seen such effort to make a champion. hope for the sake of the sport Mclaren are found guilty and kicked out of this years championship.
Mike, Galway, Ireland
I can hardly believe this. Alonso follows team orders and gets penalized. Hamilton doesn't and he gets a pole position he didn't won with his driving.
Alonso may have big mouth, but certainly Hamilton's much bigger. I can't imagine what the reaction of you English pressmen would have been if with it was Alonso and not Hamilton who adressed Ron Dennis with all that f****** stuff.
Ignoring team orders and then abusing the team manager. Not too bad for a rookie driver. "And you, young Skywalker; we shall watch your career with great interest" ;)
Orphebus, Valladolid, Spain
If Fernando left McLaren everybody could to see that Lewis is not ready to lead a team and McLaren come back to darkness last years.
I wish Fernando next year will go to BMW and they show to Mclaren the biggest mistake in F1 History
Daniel rodriguez, Madrid, Spain
In Renault they are missing him,..
And in BMW, and in Ferrari. The only one team tht seems unable to see his talent is McLaren. Pity for them.
Corocota, Valladolid,
Hamiltion didn't follow team instructions.....Alonso was stopped by his enginner at the box looking for a gap in the traffic. The only guilty is Hamilton who offer a selfish image...
Remember where is McLaren and where is Renault this year.... if Alonso left the team in order to join Ferrari you will know what is a long period of time without a champion......
Hamilton copy/paste the characteristics ans preparations in any circuit, this is something than says many things aboy the ability to make champion car....
FORZA ALONSO
pablo, madrid,
I do not think Alonso is against Hamilton wich is a great F1driver,but against Ron Dennis who is handling very bad this situation.
As well, not everything is only harmful for Hamilton because Alonso should have had an extra lap in this Grand Prix in order to have less gasoline, and instead, it was hamilton who had this "help".The main fact is that Ron Dennis is going to lose the 2 greatest drivers in F-1 nowadays and losing confidence from both sides.
Sergio, Madrid, Spain
Alonso did folow team orders. And yes I believe that was a mistake. next time don´t follow team orders Alonso....
Rocio, Madrid, Spain
Mclaren has one of the best cars because they got the money from vodafone to develop it, and because they have the driver most people in F1 would agree is best for that task.
If alonso had not joined Mclaren, they hadn't had vodafone as a sponsor.
Alonso is the better driver, he is able to deliver his best, whilst Hamilton shows weaknesses under pressure.
Jose Serrano, madrid, spain
It's really regrettable what is happening in McLaren.
They decided to stop Alonso in the pit lane, avoiding Hamilton to run his final lap, because Hamilton had disobeyed the team strategy of giving the final lap to Alonso, so he was obliged to let Fernando go in front of him.
Hamilton and the team strategy were the only responsible of this situation, but not Fernando.
And now that McLaren has been punished, they only claim about the constructors' points, nothing about Alonso penalty.
Hamilton, take advantage of this situation you have this year, because next year Alonso will be in another team, when he could be appreciated as a double (hopefully triple) World Championship. Then you will be in your right position, just below Fernando.
luis, madrid, spain
That Alonso needs to do a "Michael Schumacher" to get ahead of Hamilton, shows that Lewis is as good if not better. Personally this makes me sad! The only way of getting ahead, appears to be to bend the rules!
The stewards obviously have better information than the press or us, so I think their decision should be accepted.
Fernando had no real competition at Renault so could shine with a great car (this season Renault has problem with change to Bridgestone tyres)
Malcolm Hoffmann, Hamburg, Germany
EXCUSE ME??? oh my god! Alonso is nowadays the best pilot in F1 .... does anybody can feel the "Jelousy" about him? Hamilton is good ... ok ... but F1 is a sport for a TEAM, not for a PLAYER ... and Alonso knows that .. For that reason he listen to his team, not like Hamilton , who do wherever he want...
Alonsooooooo come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie, USA,
Hamilton should learn to have a little more respect for Ron - the man who has supported him all these years and has given him his first F1 drive in a top team, few drivers get that luxury. They did seem to have a close relationship, i think some trust has been lost this weekend.
Jess, Worthing,
What a pity !!! F1 races are winning in the FIA offices.
Sue, Paris, France
i think Hamilton will win the championships in style and show the rest of formula one that he is the best thing to happen to the sport for decades.Then he'll sign for Ferrari and dominate the sport for ten years...
Nev Taylor, Manchester, UK
That Hamilton is now on pole belies the fact that the Mclaren race strategy is compromised: Lewis (thanks to Alonso) doesn't have the right fuel load and a very light BMW is alongside him; Kimi is now on the clean side of the track and Alonso will be no help from sixth with his heavy-er fuel load.
What Ron Dennis meant when he said the incident was "triggered" by Lewis was (I contend) that the hold-up was a getting-back for not letting Alonso go earlier!
Andrew Andersson, Taunton, U.K.
Louis Hamilton can take great pleasure and comfort from knowing his team-mate is so rattled by the skill and speed of a "rookie' in his very first season in F1, that the current world-champion has to resort to dirty underhand cheating tactics to deprive him of a final qualifying lap. Make no mistake, Louis would have bettered Alonso's time.
Team orders my foot, Alonso is patently well and truly rattled at the thought of a mere rookie taking his title (and associated glory) away from him in his very first season. Keep it up Louis, this so-called champion is sure to crack under the pressure.
Finally, as for comparing Schumacher's behaviour to Alonso's, that is also out of order. At least the errors Michael made were invariably in the heat of the moment whilst under racing conditions. Alonso sat calmly in the pit lane yesterday and watched the seconds tick down before moving his car. Cynical and underhand in the extreme.
Ricky, London,
i fully agree with Anthony.
i am tired to see how Hamilton is getting the advantage in the car development and set up made up by Fernando with no contribution back whatsoever.
additionally, in order to provide the complete information (and not only deliberately misguiding information) i would please ask mr Baldwin to also comment on why Hamilton disobeyed up to six times in the first lap (Q3) to comply with the team strategy previously agreed.
in other newspapers (providing a lot more information than this one; think of it) it seems that the one who played a 'dirty trick', was absolutely selfish, unsportive, etc. was Hamilton who did not honour the agreement on the strategy, whilst Fernando has done so all through.
to me, Fernando defended himself (in a way that was found ok by FIA up to 22:30 yesterday), only after Hamilton had breached the team's agreement on the qualifying strategy.
so to say the least, Hamilton does not seem a very honorable man.
Gonzalo, Madrid, Spain
In my opinion all this is a plot organished by the ma F.I.A in order to give the championship on a silver plate to hamilton. I live in edinburgh and I watch every race on tv and I am still wondering why nobody commented anything when the crane took hamilton back to the track on the last grand prix.
This new ma F.I.A resolution punishing fernando alonso when he was just following team orders is shameless.
Fernando, edinburgh, scotland
England knows that alonso will be the champion. Hamilton is only a beginner with luck.
GEorge, Oxford, England
You are right Jason from Birmingham..."with a far cooler head" than Alonso, the problem is that it is too cool and even being a rookie he disobeys the team orders because yesterday's all matter comes from that, and then he has bad words to Ron, and then ironic words to Alonso who was only doing what the engineers asked him to do. Alonso is a gentleman, he tries to win but the boss of dirty tricks was always Schumacher and I hope Lewis is not the successor on that matter.
enrique, VALENCIA, SPAN
There is no doubt about Hamilton's violation of team instructions to work for his advantage,( drawing first blood , if you will ) yet Alonso who did post the fastest time, and whose motives for his actions are not quite clear, and is the reigning champion is not given the benefit of the doubt. End result Hamilton gets a prize for his transgression and Alonso gets severely penalized. If penalties are to be handed out for this then let them both be penalized. Am I missing something here ? Who are these FIA people ?
jose Mendez Coll, San Juan , Puerto Rico
ALONSO IS THE CHAMPION , and hamilton the pretty boy of dennis , pplz respect the awards and stop blamming alonso when all the mistakes are from lewis(and he have the helps from Mclaren ... )
ALONSO2WIN
kal, vigo, SPAIN
I agree. Hamilton disobeyed a Team instruction to have Fernando 1 extra lap on the qualifications. Dennis explained that clearly. Hamilton is playing dirty.
Vincent, Valencia, Spain
Its incredible the lays in this history. Hamilton doesnt follow the instructions of the team, Why Hamilton always does the final lap in clasification?? In mclaren the intern code, is alonso one race the last lap and hamilton in the next. In the last Hamilton did the last lap, and in this race, the turn is for Alonso. 6 times they told this to Hamilton, but Hamilton dont wanted. And then, the team says to Alonso wait in the pit stop, of course. And The Hamiltonist FIA, did this, is just incredible, Mclaren and FIA wants that Hamilton wins the championship. Formula 1 is over.
ayrton, sao paulo, Brazil
Anthony, from Candem Town, I couldn't say that better than you. I agree with you on the whole.
Nobody knows what interests have FIA and Mclaren against Alonso. This is not sport. This is Mafia procedures. Let the pilots drive.
I think they are going to achieve the opposite they want, cause Alonso is a hard rock (last two years against Schumi he showed it), and the "emerging new superstar" is going to have a nervous breakdown by his youth when he cannot reach expectations. Look at his face these last three weeks.
Joe , Valencia, Spain
Alonso is a liability to McLaren and a danger to everyone on the track who doesn't bow to his 'superiority' and let him win. Allowing this person to continually demonstrate his 'road rage' on the track will eventually lead to someone being seriously hurt.
Dave, Selby, UK
I'm sure that Hamilton is not a world championship, he proved it yesterday. NO matter what happened, what happened at home, stayed at home. Alonso knows how to controll this situation, but Hamilton was out of control yesterday. Ha acted like a little girl when he didn't go to the conference. This is totally painful for the interest of the sport and the F1.
Alice, madrid, spain
Let FA leave McLaren at the end of the season. A dream team for McLaren would be Lewis and Jensen Button from the the uncompetetive Honda team.
Phil, Banstead, Surrey
why the FIA does not claim Hamilton World champion or 8 times World Champion, 77 Fastest laps, 69 Pole positions and 92 victories and breaks all the stats of Schumacher, Hamilton is a very good pilot but don't need this kind of help.
Alex, Barcelona, Spain
Has it been mentioned anywhere what article of the FIA rules is used to blame Alonso?
Alan, London,
These kind of actions - remember what FIA did last year , are the actions which encourage the spanish people. Now, I am sure Alonso will be World Champion again.
Ãnimos Nano!!
Juan Pablo, London, UK
So Ron Dennis said Hamilton did not follow the team orders before the pit incident; Dennis said too that Alonso remained in the pit because the team ordered him to wait. And the race stewards... penalised Alonso!
Something is rotten in the state of McLaren.
Jorge, Madrid, Spain
Wrong decision by the Stewards. Alonso "did the crime" and should be deducted his fastest lap (i.e. start from second). And why should the team be penalised Constructor's points when the problem was that one of their drivers impeded their other driver?
Alain C. Fenn, Battle, East Sussex
The McLaren team begins to reek opf sulphur. First caught with the Ferrari dossier, now this. They are seriously damaging the sport.
Jon S, Cape Town, South Africa
I think that you are not just with Fernando Alonso. I understand that Mclaren is a English team and Hamilton (and his father ...) is a english pilot but you would to be more objective. Yesterday Alonso only respect orders of team. It is difficult to be in a English car with a English partner. Hamilton already has what wanted, the pole position. Maybe the next year you will remember the champion of the world when he will be in Ferrari. The time puts each one in his siteplace. I am sorry because i speak english more or less, I hope that you understand me.
Thanks.
Javier, Madrid, Spain
"Alonso pays Mclaren trick" and gives Hamilton more advantange in the world championship. The team make a mistake and Alonso pays, that is justice.
Anyway Hamilton is a very good driver and he did a good job during the qualifation
César, Zaragoza, Spain
Its quite amazing that a team which has just obtain first and second positions in a race shows such tensiona and bad environment. On Spanish TV Alonso just said he followed his engineer's rules and Hamilton impeded him to do an extra round, but who knows....
Alex, Sevilla, Spain
Besides driving against the Ferraris, Fernando also drives against Ron, Lewis and the McLaren Team, that's what makes him a great champ !!!!!!!!!!
Gustavo Perez, Arriondas, Spain
You forgot to mention it all started because Hamilton deprived Alonso of the extra fast-lap attempt he was supposed to have in this GP qualifying (the team decide which driver gets the extra lap each GP, usually its for Hamilton, because for fuel and re-fueling issues they cannot have it both).
So the team (namely, Ron Dennis) decides Hamilton is not being team friendly and decides to punish him. Yet the 'phenomenon' gets away with it.
Alonso has made a great team again out of MacLaren and Hamilton is making it a joke. My guess is Hamilton will leave MacLaren and abandon his sooo loved mentor.
Jose, Reus,
the greatest pity is that fernando didn't have the presence of mind to stall it. now that would have been clever.
harvey amies, brighton,
Does anyone know why Alonso´s car was fitted with used tyres just before de last qualifying lap? It seems that he was questionning that point trough the radio team along these 10 sec he retarded his start.
Ernesto, Castellon, Spain
No more words as Alonso said yesterday ... That's incredible!
Cristina, Santander, Spain
maFIA
juanjo, huelva, Spain
I am surprised of hearing brits people about what be world champion means. alonso is going to be number one again this year. thats the true. no matter what big brother makes. you move this, but as heminway said, english have de best, but spanish gets to genious...oh my english, worse than my spanish.jose
jose, sevilla, spain
Did the FIA ever strip Ferrari of a Grand Prix championship points because of an internal dispute ?
Gilbert Pesenti, Talissieu, France
When the championship is at stake, tempers will fray - and especially when it's all to do with a certain rookie who is many times the pro than the rookie. Alonso portrayed signs of desperation and complete unsportsman-like behaviour and should have been penalised more heavily (as Schumacer was in the 2006 Monaco Grand Prix, when the latter blocked none other than Alonso at the Rascasse corner and was sent to the back of the grid). The strain is definitely showing, and will continue for the rest of the season as Hamilton begins again to stretch his lead at the top.
And Anthony from New Zealand, whether or not Alonso leaves McLaren will be of no consequence. The driver is only as good as the team that supports him. And McLaren is the place to be at this point in time. If Alonso left them, other equally capable drivers will only be too happy to take up his spot, e.g. Pedro de la Rosa (the current McLaren test driver). And YES!, Hamilton would cope fantastically well as the lead driver!
Elias, Stevenage, United Kingdom
I miss a litlebit of objectivity in the british press. It is the two times back-to-back world championship winner who we are talking about and just because this spoilt kid called Hamilton is doing well (no driver in their first f1 year gets to drive a Mclaren) , doesn´t mean that the whole world spins around him and his father, brother, etc... I have to "swallow" in every grand prix, ITV commentators James Allen and Martin Brundle "perpetrating" their hooliganic transmissions without being questioned. They must thing that Hamilton is the quintessential driver and Alonso won the two championships almost by accident. And it is also pathetic how they support any Alonso rival (be it Raikkonnen, Massa, Schumacher or whoever) as long as Alonso doesn´t win, yes, very objective and fair, and the funniest thing is they try to lecture us about sportmanship... Sorry about my english, I am a spaniard who lives in Cape Town, South Africa. Regards to the amazing Great Britain ( I really mean it)
Cristóbal Salmerón, Cape Town,
although the people the fia and the press, tryes to change the reality, the truth will continue existing. Hamilton disobey the team orders.
the actuations of Hamiton will create a bad fame to F1 a fame of favoritism and favours. Alonso, leave Mclaren as soon as possible, and go to Ferrari.
hamilton won't win the championship
A.B., BCN, SPAIN
You guys are so not fair. Alonso has been a cheater for a long long time, nobody can say that Hamilton did something wrong. He is the better driver, even in Africa we could see that Alonso cheated,everybody was so upset at that, I almost had an AVC. Let's see what the future will bring
Osvaldo, Luanda, Angola
Im from Spain, and from here its like McLaren doesn't want to accept ANY situation that directly harms his protected driver Hamilton. Come on, im also reading the new "Hamilton poised to join super-rich"... Is McLaren overprotecting Hamilton as a mediatic celebrity? For sure.. Better a young and english driver than a spanish dude ah?
Telmo Gonzalez, San Sebastian, Spain
Mr. Anthony is totally right. Hamilton is a very good driver but he copies all the settings that Alonso do for his car. In fact a couple of times Hamilton changed some of the settings and he failed. He needs more experience and to be more humble...He´s not as good as he thinks he is...
If things go this way Alonso will go out of McLaren...and Hamilton poor boy...
JAVIER, Madrid, Spain
Alonso must go today, defeat Hamilton on race, and then ask for their contract termination with McLaren.
This is a shame and a disrespect to a double world champion.
Mclaren deserves Montoya to be back again.
Rafa, Madrid, España
Dirty tricks is just what F1 needs along with pop up sprinklers on the race track and plenty more espionage to fill in the gaps waiting for the next race. It's almost become interesting but I fear this purple patch won't last. Alonso should be congratulated for such brilliant timing on his parking and the quick thinking to pull such a move. Ron Dennis throwing his headphones across the desk was the most dramatic moment in qualifying. As the commentators seem incapable of injecting any drama into the procedings viz Damon Hill pointing out that one of the pit crew on a team radio to a driver was 'stating the bleeding obvious'. Most of Damon's comments were of the same ilk. So bring it on Fernando. Real shame you're not close enough to Lewis for some first corner action. That's how real drivers would have settled this. On the track. Not bleating to teacher that Jenkins Minor has looked at your answers and come top as a result.
Trevor Griffiths, South Bucks,
What's all this about Hamilton copying Alonso's car setup? it's well documented that each side of the McLaren Garage won't reveal set-up to the other.
And if that were not true, how do we explain the races were Alonso was struggling with setup, languishing in fifth and sixth whilst Hamilton was leading the race and lighting the timings up with purple?
And who helped Hamilton set his car up in GP2??
Nonsense.
We won't know the truth of this until we find out whether Hamilton could feasably have followed orders and let Alonso past without giving a huge advantage to Kimi, even if Hamilton did disobey the orders two wrongs don't make a right, and Alonso has been punished.
Phil Weaver, Liverpool,
it´s incredible. The "baby" hamilton must be punished for all spanish. Stupid¡¡¡¡
Alonso, asturias, asturias
ok. Alonso, don´t drive. it´s all set up for the briton. it´s amazing!
Alonso, if you want to win f1, change your passport. It´s so sad...
vince, manchester, UK
It is difficult to believe that this was a deliberate attempt by McLaren to get Alonso on pole and deny Hamilton the opportunity.
Logic dictates that it is safer to get a 1-2 start position and then manpulate the result in the pit stops. It is almost impossible to overtake at this track, so much so that it should be deleted from the championship. It is absolutely impossible to overtake in a similar car and therefore it is much easier to hold Hamilton in the pits fora few extra seconds on his last stop.
The logic also says that, seeing as this was the second time during the session that they held Alonso and you could see the lollipop man do the countdown, getting Alonso a clear track was almost certainly the priority and the reason he was held.
For all the conspiracy theorists, did you see the 'man on the grassy knoll'? If not then remember this is a multi million dollar sport and qualifying is not the place to manipulate things in your own team, the race is the place to do that.
Clifford Bury, New Territories, Hong Kong
The excuses the Alonso Fanboys use about Lewis "copying" Fernando's setups are the most laughable opinions on F1 I have ever read.
Do you really think all teams run as two halves ?
As the boys have equal setups and equal cars, how come as a newcomer, in a straight fight, Lewis is so often in front of FA ?
Is FA getting stymied by "An English team" ? Some of us have been watching long enough to remember a guy called Mika Hakkinen "getting favoured" over Coulthard. Obviously Mika was English and it is me who is El Tonto.
Alex, Tortosa, Catalunya
Alonso, clearly has now lost any respect he had as a "fair" competitor. He had shown pettiness, irrationality, stupidity and now a day light robbery.
Michael Shumacher of all the competitive ills associatted with him never delibrately cheated his team mate. Alonso cheating and stupidity yesterday show, Lewis has eaten deep into his skin and now feel an inferior driver.
If the repported exchange between Ron and Lewis is true, it is the right exchange. Ron now knows, he has a driver, who's clever in the tracks and clever outside it and wants to win for the team.
Mclaren should think of moving Alonso and his physio on, they are too small minded to have in a team.
Broderick, London, UK
It's a shame that Alonso did a "Michael Schumacher" yesterday, it seems the pressure of having to succeed each race turns the brain. Don't believe McLaren had anything to do with the situation.
I don't think McLaren would miss Alonso, Lewis can easily fill his boots. Renault going downhill is more due to change of tyres than Alonso leaving, although he was miles ahead of Fisicella.
Malcolm Hoffmann, Hamburg,
Anthony, dear boy, do lay off the sherbet or whatever it is you're smoking - can't understand the vast majority of what you've posted. Hamilton is displaying extraordinary maturity and, if by some weird chance Alonso were to leave, I see no problem in him leading the team. (for an example of his maturity, just compare his interviews after qually 3 - extraordinarily calm and phlegmatic - with his supposed exchange with Ron Dennis reported above; this was a very, very angry young man who knows how to hide his feelings in public and when it matters - can't think of any other driver who could do that, except, possibly, Jenson Button)
Like I said, don't really know where you're coming from, Anthony, though I suspect you're a disgruntled Ferrari fan. But if by any miracle Alonso did leave, McLaren could have have the dream team of all time: Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button.
notrom, London, UK
Gonzo from Orense - Envious OF - That is why, felow citizen
Tariq , Ashford,
ALONSO = CHEAT
Rony, fife,
First. Renault is missing Alonso
Second. MP4-22 was performing 3rd or 4th in January's test. McLaren started to perform better since Alonso's arrival
Third. I have no doubt at all about Hammilton can be faster than Alonso copying Alonso's set up
Forth. Why have FIA santionated McLaren? Is a fault follow your team instructions?
Fith. Where the hells is the rule which says how many time you have to make a pit stop?
Sixth. Since when FIA says which strategy must follow a team or how many laps you must make?
Cheaters
Gustavo, Alpedrete, Madrid
It was first the "crane" incident...
And now this "day of shame"... Hamilton ignores the team orders and Alonso is punished. Unbelievable !!!
FIA should send Alonso to prison for the next GPs and punish Ferrari's drivers with 50 points at least for disturbing "wonderboy" 's peace of mind. This way they would secure a British is the next championship.
And for the next year I would suggest a championship with F1 cars for Button, Coulthard, Hamilton and other emerging British stars and street cars for the rest of (non-British) pilots. It would be a more honest way to secure a briton is the world champion.
Next year Alonso will be out of McLaren and the world will see Hamilton is nothing but the next British bluff...
Gonzalo, Madrid,
The only one dirty trick is for Hamilton. He refused six times to follow MacLarens' instructions. Now Alonso and McLaren pay for him.
Hamilton HAS to won the Championship because he is black and english. And FIA is working on it. But Alonso is the best driver and will success at the end. I'm looking forward to see Alonso at BMW next year, and McLaren and Hamilton trying to do all the job that Alonso has made for the team this year. It will be very funny.
Jose Luis, Madrid, España
What a shame! If McLaren made something inadequate both drivers would have to be penalized. A children who always goes accompanied of his father cannot be world champion. Next year Alonso will make champion BMW, Ferrari or Toyota, Bye bye McLaren...
Arturo, Barcelona, Spain
Like most sports........its full of cheats.....
Shane, Great Harwood, Lancs
Antonio, Spain. Doesn't matter if it rains. The crane will just place Hamilton back on the circuit to carry on ala nurburgring. A season dedicated to a Brit winning in a Brit car. Farse!!!
Paolo De Rosa, Hertfordshire, UK
Cannot agree with that one bit. If Alonzo jumped in a renault right now, he would still be coming home around the same place. VMM currently have the best car. In 2005 they ran the whole seanon with the 2004 spec car. They had a rough year but the development has paid off now big time. I also think it is unfair to Hamilton. How many rookies win a race in their first year, never mind lead the championship? You also have to remember just who Lewis Hamiltons godfather is. Mr Ron Dennis no less. He has been Rons surrogate son/prodigy many years and, even though Hamilton has only just taken a front line drive, he has been part of the McLaren family for 15 years. They have bred a driver from the age of 6. Scarey.
I am a bigger fan of Alonso than I am of McLaren, but VMM have entered another level here. Not just hiring a driver but growing one from seed.
Alex carling, Stockholm, Sweden
Why don't you mention that the extra lap in qualifying season that usually drives one of the pilots alternatively belonged, in this case, to Fernando? And why don't you mention that Haminton went to the track first when it was planned that Alonso did?
I am a bit tired that Hamilton is helped once again. He is a good driver, yes, but FIA and McLaren are spoilting him.
Blas, Madrid,
Hamilton is not prepared to lead a team as McLaren.
Two world championship are not enough to Dennis and I'm sure that in other team Alonso would be the best.
The FIA tries to favor to Hamilton in her fight by the championship.
Fair play!!!!
Lucy , vancouver, canada
I cant agree with Anthony. But if anyone is happy for wins from dirty tricks like Alonso pulled, it says much about his followers! The fact is Hamilton is the No 1 asset - and Ron Dennis and McLaren might like to remember that.
Richard D, Plymouth,
I'm sure Hamilton could handle that situation with ease, I wouldn't put McLarens successful season down to the arrival of Alonso alone, that is insulting to all the McLaren staff who work hard behind the scenes. Hamilton as a rookie has made a double world champion look quite average this year, except for the occasional glimpses of class from Alonso. I like you am looking forward to Mclaren without Alonso but for different reasons. Alonso is rattled without question.
James, Manchester, UK
Unfair title that is ! Alonso might not be totally clean on that but clearly McLaren shares the responsability but not the headings of this article....
2 meetings with the FIA's ICA in less than 2 weeks ! Isn't it a bit too much ?
I hope Fernando is going to leave this team soon and I wish good luck to Ron Dennis with his young protege...
All this is not good for F1.
Patrick, Faversham, Kent
I´m very sad, this isn´t a good information, it´s a big manipulation, but it´s obviously, everybody knows how is the british people.....
Sergio , Santa Cruz, Spain
Incredible, Alonso is not guilty. Hamilton play dirty, Fia play dirty. Hamilton copy Alonso's telemetry, and McLaren said to Alonso wait in the pit. ¿why Alonso have to pay ?
Charlie, Bochum, Germany
History puts each one on his place. Hamilton is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (or like a Gremlin). Cogratulations to the false polite Hamilton and to the "maFIA"
David, Valencia, Spain
Again, everything the news points against Alonso instead McLaren...It is clear it was a team´s fault not the pilot who was just following team orders. Nobody could blame to Alonso for yesterdays delay at the pit. And again the rulers decide to punish the driver. Curiously, all the benefits af the FIA´s decision falls on Hamilton, a great pilot indeed.
Giacomo, Pyrenees, Spain
Lewis -- Just do your stuff, we are all behind you.
jonny5, manchester, manchester
Amazing with english press... no coment...
Ron Dennis: "Fernando was late ten seconds because this way the engineer was needing it, was not deliberate at all"
Last race, in accident, he come back to the race (derrick)...
maFIA
David, Hanover,
I still don't understand why the driver who follows the team's intructions is sanctioned and the one who doesnt is rewarded with a pole he doesnt deserve. why is Alonso sanctioned if his own team recognizes his innocence? and why Hamilton is rewarded while his team says it was his fault for not letting Alonso pass and denying the team ordes 6 TIMES????
peter, london, UK
Although the FIA docked Alonso by 5 places they seem to be firmly in favour of Alonso. Last year when Schumacher did trhe same to Alonso in Monaco Schumacher was punished much harsher and last week they did not give Alonso a stop and go penalty when leaving the pit lane when Fischishella ( I guess it was him ) was out already and simply shoved him aside.
When any other driver had done that he would be severely punished.
The FIA is very benevolent tot Alonso.
m van Egdom, Rhenen, Holland
Hamilton causes all of this, and now he's the one who benefits!! I can't believe it. The FIA seem to like manipulating results as they did last year with controversial decisons (i.e. monza). I agree with Anthony of Candem Town, without Alonso as a team mate, Hamilton wouldn't be where he is right now.
Federico, Sevilla, Spain
The ruling is absolutely crazy. They punished Fernando and his team, but the kid is rewarded with the pole position. What a shame! My prediction is, though, that Fernando Alonso, if maintains his cool, will eventually win the championship. I cannot forsee Hamilton bearing the pressure any longer.
Joseph Madgral, Brooklyn, USA
Its incredible the way this newspaper tells the history: "Alonso pays for dirty trick". What trick? Alonso only did what