Edward Gorman, Motor Racing Correspondent, in Shanghai
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Lewis Hamilton will find out today whether he is to be demoted on the grid for the Chinese Grand Prix on Sunday, or worse, lose his ten points for winning in Fuji last weekend, over claims that he drove erratically behind the safety car in Japan.
After new video footage taken by a Japanese fan in the grandstand emerged of a crash involving Mark Webber, the Red Bull driver, and Sebastian Vettel, of the Toro Rosso team, on lap 46 of a chaotic race at the Fuji Speedway, there were fears that Hamilton could pay dearly for his apparent role in the incident.
The crash happened immediately behind Hamilton, who was leading the field during the second of two safety car periods in heavy rain, and the stewards in Shanghai are investigating Hamilton’s driving amid claims that his sudden deceleration ahead of Webber and Vettel caused the crash.
This latest threat to Hamilton’s charge to World Championship glory came as Fernando Alonso, his bitter rival at McLaren Mercedes, gave the impression at an FIA press conference in Shanghai that he believes the team are doctoring his race car to ensure that Hamilton wins the title.
Alonso, who crashed in Japan and is 12 points behind Hamilton with just this weekend’s race in Shanghai and the Brazilian Grand Prix in two weeks to come, was asked whether he believes he was treated in a fair way by McLaren last weekend or whether “the team favour Lewis by making subtle changes to your car, like tyre pressures or wing settings”. Alonso, who has complained all season that McLaren favour Hamilton over him, made no attempt to deny the claim. “Difficult question,” he said, pausing for emphasis. “I will not answer.” No one who heard him could be in any doubt what his intended meaning was and indeed Spanish journalists close to Alonso said that he has been stating as much privately for some time.
The inquiry into Hamilton’s driving in Japan came as a shock to McLaren, who were said to be astonished that Hamilton could be implicated in the crash between Webber and Vettel.
Tight rules govern driving behind the safety car, with Hamilton, as the leader, required to keep within five car lengths of it at all times while not driving unnecessarily slowly or erratically or in a way that is “deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers”.
The case against Hamilton is that after he got close to the safety car going into the chicane at Fuji, he suddenly slowed and veered to the right, causing Vettel, who was third, to mistake him for retiring. In terrible visibility, the 20-year-old German rookie accelerated into the back of Webber, who was braking, putting them both out of the race. Vettel was demoted ten places on the grid for this weekend’s grand prix, a penalty that Toro Rosso are seeking to have overturned.
Webber was outspoken in his criticism of Hamilton yesterday. “I think he did a s*** job behind the safety car,” the Australian, who had been on course for his best race finish, said. “He [Hamilton] spoke in the drivers’ briefing [before the race] about how good a job he was going to do, and then he did the job the opposite way, so we know for next time.”
At McLaren the view was that Hamilton drove within the rules and it was pointed out that neither the safety car driver nor the race director made any complaint about his conduct during or after the race.
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Mr. Hamilton, Great job today!
congratulations.
Robert Jim, Barcelona, Spain
Hamilton will face many enemies because of his colour.
You should judge him on his ability. It is a well known fact if you are hit in the back, it is the car in the rear who is at fault. Please, please leave Lewis alone, enjoy the sport in its truest sense. Roll on Sunday, I can't wait....Simply the best
kay Dee, Devon, England
Hamilton... a class apart no doubt, but because of his over confidence and somewhat arrogance he thinks he was playing it fair! I personally disagree, in those horrendous rainy conditions where the drivers couldnât even see there own noses, he was better of to âplayâ it safe and therefore shouldnât have driven erratically. Although an admirer of LH he definitely should be punished.
JP, Torres Vedras, Portugal
So Lewis could get docked points. So what, let the FIA penalise him. Then Lewis you start the race in China and win and prove to all the critiques that you are the best driver this year and rub there noses in it. Then let the Alonso have their say because he will no longer be the best.
Derek Young, Thatcham, Berkshire
"spanish practices". I wonder why we say that.
sorry, but anyone who thinks the hand of god goal was wonderful... depending on which side you're on.... is clearly too eaten up with bias and xenophobic vitriol to be taken seriously.
and don't even think about suggesting some unintended irony.
jem, london, uk
Your say makes me laugh.The FIA against Hamilton!. Is this the tittle of a science fiction book?.
Do you remember the Hungarian or the European race?.
Hamilton 16 races and no penality pass through, no lost of pole position or no lost of points. Is simply a lucky british guy or there is some thing else?.
In the other hand Kubica touch Hamilton and get a pass through penality, Alonso made a long pit stop and lost the pole possition, Vetel crash Webber and Vetel lost 10 positions in nest race.
Is this fair play?. All of you know that this is not fair paly this is McCheaters play.
But, the problem is the British president of the F1 and the British president of the FIA.
Jesus, Madrid, Spain
Oh and whilst we're at it, I'd like the FIA to deduct points from Michael Schumaker for his suspect driving back in his first champion-winning year, in some race, somewhere, so that he might well NOT have gone on to be champion that year, and then possibly not the following years either. YES, let's all rewrite history together - when it suits someone influential. What a jolly farce.
kingdom quark, london, uk
Hang in there Hamilton - to me this seems to be a case of sore loosers and bullying! Think of them as as Jade Goodies! And ure driving a big sandwich racing off into the distance...
Good luck
If the FIA do penalise Lewis, another faithful F1 fan will be lost!
Marc Sanders, Fawley, UK
I think i get a feeling that there is a case of misplaced patriotism or specific anti-driver issues going on here. The simple facts are that 1) when safety car is deployed the driving conditions have been deemed to dangerous to race. 2) In addition the tyres on the car will have cooled and any additional thermal induced adhesion would have been lost. Therefore affecting braking responses - even at lower speeds (Hamilton should be aware of this). In addition, Webber when following Hamilton is not allowed to overtake Hamilton. As such to prevent disqualification (or penalisation) he had to break to such a rapid extent in order to stay behind Hamiton. As such no blame should be portioned towards Webber. However some blame is warranted against Hamilton. There was no need to accelerate/decelerate so rapidly towards/from the safety car, nor take a line which is deemed different to the norm. An issue that is not illegal as such, but could take other drivers (esp. rookies) by surprise.
YMW, London,
I just think that the stewards should act in the same way as they did with other drivers, including Alonso. If Hamilton drove "erratically", as he did, he should be punished. The same rules for everybody.
Alberto, Madrid, Spain
Agree with Alan entirely - stop ruining the sport we all love with these ridiculous girlie spats!
By the way - no-one has mention, remember its Ferrari that supply the Torro Rosso engines - it makes me feel quite ill - maybe McLaren should join up with A1 GP?
Nick, Leeds, UK
Hamilton is a phenomona!!..all will question his skills as the world does not like a natural winner without trying to bring them down first!!!
Purplesaturn, Fareham, Hants
Has Hamilton done enough this season to deserve the title? Probably
Having seen the video, was the combination of the conditions and Hamiltons erratic driving the cause of the accident? Definitely
Andy, Pembrokeshire, Wales
The FIA should be known as the Ferrari Insurance Agency given its protection of Ferrari's interests which is heppening now as it did during Schumache's reign.
garth r a wiseman, london, england
Seems the problems lie with Hamilton's colour and Alonso's bruised ego
D A, London, UK
irrespective of the outcome of this latest pace car issue,
one thing has become clearly apparent .
Fernando Alonso is a serious snake in the grass.
Hes so low he could slither under the belly of a snake wearing a top hat.
Great driver terrible sportsman.
Blackmail bitterness scheming surely spanish fans must be disgusted with their mans behaviour outside the car.
DB, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England
if you're lead driver behind the safety car, just drive behind it. What's all that slow fast stop start crap Hamilton was doing. In shocking conditions, what else did he want to do but create collisions for rest of the field. I'm with Markey Mark on this one.
Laura Biocca , My city of Sydney, Australia
The FIA makes changes to formula one in the name of safety, but when watching the Japan race I felt safety was compromised and that "safety" only matters when it suits one. I donât blame Lewis Hamilton for doing a good job in what I can only say âdangerous driving conditionsâ. Shouldnât Webber be questioning the race organizers, why the race was run in bad conditions?
harj, alershot, hants
Alonso is the best driver, he is clean in the road and Mc Laren and Hamilton are not clean. They have done a lot of bad acctionss in order to penalty to Alonso. The FIA have to penalty to Hamilton today...
MinisTrillo, Madrid, España
To me it looks like Hamilton found himself about to overtake the Safety Car which would have ended his race and so had to run wide going into the corner. Vettel then accelerated into the back of Webber when going into a tight corner. Which from his position behind Webber was not on the cards.
I suppose it is easier to beat Lewis Hamilton in the committee rooms than it is on the track. If he does get beaten in the committee rooms, like Alan Perry, I won't be watching Formula one again as the mandarins will have proved winning titles in F1 has nothing to do with driving.
George Brink, Hinckley, Leics, UK
Do you realise that incident with Alonso was Vettel fault if Alonso did not had the crash with Vettel he would not the accident so is chances of wining the champioships could be intact at this moment but Spaniards and same other people is only focused and obsessed with Hamilton.Just give time and will say Alonso accident in Japan was Hamilton wo delibratly Alonso.
luterio, pamplona, Spain
At one time Alonso might have been seen as the new Schumacher in the good sense of the comparison but that staus is now Hamilton's whilst Alonso is now to be seen as the new Schumacher in the bad sense.
garth r a wiseman, london, england
I't funny, firts you agree with FIA when they investigated Alonso at Hungary, and there was NO driving code that could punish his behaviour then.
And now you blame FIA for facing Hamilton under investigation when everybody could see his driving and NOW there is a driving code that punishes that kind of behaviour?
You are driving me crazy, gents.
If they punished alonso, they MUST punish now hamilton, IT IS a matter of fact.
Otherwise everybody could see, clearly, that there is a "british black hand" under all F1 decisions (Ecclestone-Waiting-Mosley).
Regards to all
mario, Barcelona, Spain
I purpose Lewis to be sanctified and together with McLaren to be declared victim of a very bud and solitaire âpowerfulâ Spaniard acting against of a whole corporationâ¦
British individuals, you do not know your history?, do you forget that you âalmost- always impose âyour British realityâ?, Why do you think that this popular issue is something else?
PS1: in other hand, it is clear that you need world championship on anythingâ¦taking in account your success in the last decades
PS2: I guess Alonso has now the same feeling at McLaren that you had with the âhand of Godâ in México â86. Such situation are sad or are wonderful, it depends on the side you are.
PS3: no doubt that Lewis is an excellent driver, also no doubt that he -and also Alonso- will use the hand of got if necessary. ¿Who is God in this panorama?
Javier, Barcelona/Buenos Aires, España
If this happened on a public road who would blame Hamilton - Vettel was wrong, possibly stupid, this is really pathetic stuff and the FIA have turned the most exciting F1 season for over a decade into an embarrasing farce.
It may be "big business" but no one pays to watch HSBC discuss refinancing arrangements.
Benjamin, Gloucester,
"Tight rules govern driving behind the safety car required to keep within five car lengths of it at all times while not driving unnecessarily slowly or erratically or in a way that is âdeemed potentially dangerous to other driversâ. Guys, have a look a the video and tell me honestly that this is not "erratical" driving. If he would have stayed behind the safety car, no accident would have happened. The fact that he is the "coloured-English-darling" of the circuit could either be an advantage or a handicap for him, since the jury is an all-white-English affair too. Awaiting in bemusement...
L. Law, Brussels,
I love the banter that this season has created but let's be honest, we're fired up because of the allegiances we all have, not because we really believe one is better than the other? Not even Schumacher is a real great compared to someone like Senna - he was in a dominant car in a team that bent the rules (and no one can disagree about that!). It's hypocrisy etc... and bottom line, whoever wins is not a real winner (and those who do are just suckers and every marketer's dream target audience!)
I say put all the drivers in a kart, have 7 qualifying sessions and races on consecutive days and see who wins, and maybe Alonso and Hamilton will be fighting for 18th place!
Ishi, London,
What is all this complain about? Is Webber struggling to see to it that Hamilton loses. With or without the so called rules i am convinced that somebody is struggling to see to it that Hamilton loses.
Ariko Odero Ochola, Zurich, switzerland
Currently, sales of Mercedes in the Kingdom of Spain is falling down, actually customers who are thinking of buying a mercedes say that they prefer an Audi or BWM than the mercedes. Why, when you treat a 26 years old guy as they have been treating him, who fancy to buy a mercedes and seeing the star while driving and remembering, how they treat our World Champion. Mercedes not thanks
Sergio Ortiz, London, UK
MGD, Reading, Berks said: "Mark Webber is 12th and never likely to lead the driver's champinship! Why listen to him?"
What does that exactly mean? That you should only listen to drivers who are likely be on top like Hamilton, Alonso or Räikkönen? That those who drive for the best teams can do what they please?
Erik, Stockholm, Sweden
Lewis Hamilton is doing a really good job keeping the rest of the drivers awake - most of whom think they are out for a sunday afternoon drive and mustn't get in each others way or Buggins might win when it's not his turn.
Calamico, Bournemouth, UK
This was the greatest F1 race in years - given the conditions, the build up and the championship that was at stake... And Hamilton won it fair and square! For Webber to then come up days later and start complaining about imaginary erratic driving on Hamilton's part, when he was the one being all aggressive behind Lewis, stinks to high heaven. The FIA shouldn't even dignify his complaint with a response!
Elias, Stevenage, UK
I have had enough of this nonsense. Goodbye, Formula One.
I started watching F1 twenty years ago this year, so it is as good a time as any to stop watching.
Alan Perry, Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
Actually, if one watched the race, Hamilton did have an odd pattern of hard braking followed by a swerve and a dash up to rejoin the safety car. This hurt the rhythm of both Alonso and Weber in the instances behind the safety car and in the wet, driving like that shows how much farther Hamilton needs to come before he is truly a world class driver.
When it gets to the point where the ITV and SPEED commentators notice the erratic and dare I say dangerous behavior by the young rookie, the FIA is bound to investigate. Given the destruction to the sport that Macca has delivered over the past year (read the transcripts, there was blatant cheating, specifically in the tire gas situation), Hamilton should be extra careful to toe the line with regards to the FIA.
Mike Giacoma, Cleveland, OH USA
How is it that straight after the incident Webber was flinging expletives at Vettel, and then a week later he has changed his tune and blamed Hamilton? Another good question is why the FIA is so determined to look like the pettiest governing body of any sport on the planet?
TG, Christchurch, NZ
Formula I is not a sport, its big business. Hamilton the world champion...
paul, mississippi, u.s.a.
As you have said: "Tight rules govern driving behind the safety car", and "to keep within five car lengths of it at all times."
The video is so clear about this, Lewis did not keep the "security distance" with de Safety car ahead, so there is no regrets for that.
Fair play, München,
Total disgrace; a travesty of sportsmanlike behaviour. Talk about winging Poms - Webber redefines the term. Let's face it Hamilton is the best out there. Accept it and move on Alonso.
ken kerr, singapore, singapore
It's a staggering insight into human nature to see how low we will sink when our ego is bruised.
Lewis Hamilton is the greatest sporting icon since the former Cassius Clay.
That Hamilton is young and a rooky just makes the other drivers more agitated.They just can't handle it.
I fully expect Hamilton to be the World champion in his first year.
"Go Lewis,you are an inspiration to millions!"
James Currie, London, U.K
Mark Webber is 12th and never likely to lead the driver's champinship! Why listen to him?
MGD, Reading, Berks
I just saw the video, with that low a visibility his diriving was not a problem. Maybe the problem is with the fact that this young man is not the establishment - a simple clean young coloured person who came out of nothing to do amazing things.
Be Serious for once, Milano,
It seems someone at FIA does not want the young briton to win the world championship. It appears to be a personal vendetta against Mclaren and Hamilton.
Tony Gunn, Stoke on Trent,