Marcus Binney
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It’s a bowl of blancmange was my first reaction when the latest designs for the 2012 Olympic stadium flashed up on the screen. The utter silence all around suggested that the audience was equally bemused.
The expressive, ballooning shapes of the early design have gone, replaced by a pixilated outer wall which will look exactly the same from every viewpoint, making it even more disorienting to walk round than the Millennium Dome.
What the architect Rod Sheard refers to as the stadium’s crown has all the interest of an elevated railway track. Where, oh where, is the sinuous swooping silhouette that wowed the world in Athens and will do so again in Beijing. There the engineers created sensationally athletic and muscular shapes that perfectly express and celebrate the greatest sporting event on earth.
Here the motive force behind the whole design is fear. Fear of adventure, fear of overspend and fear of leaving behind a white elephant. At the presentation the word legacy featured far more than the word sport. The main point of the brief was to ensure that an 80,000-seat stadium for the Olympics could be reduced to a 25,000-seater for community use and the occasional elite event.
Little thought has been given to the features that bring magic to the Olympics. When, with Athens in mind, I asked how the torch would be brought into the stadium I was greeted with a bemused smile and told this was a matter for the opening ceremony. But in Athens the drama of the torch descending into the stadium was a sensation, precisely because the staircase was the main focal point of the design. Here no opportunity has been taken to create memorable entrances and ascents.
True, practical elements appear to have been properly considered. There is a roof protecting two thirds of the spectators from rain but a large enough space for the centre to be filled with sunlight all day. There is shelter from the fierce winds that bedevil the Thames Estuary ensuring that the opportunity to break records will not be lost.
But the windswept area around the stadium in Stratford, East London, at present without any hint of cover, could be bitter and the hospitality pods look no more than coloured pebbles washed up from the beach. Tree planting is urgently needed for both shade and shelter.
One feature which needs a complete rethink is the stadium lighting, shown as 14 banks of rectangular lights like those around a football pitch. Athens demonstrated how night lighting could be a dazzling and constantly changing visual display. Stratford offers no more than glare.
The core of the problem is that the Olympic Board (Lord Coe honourably excepted) seems convinced, like those who gave us the Millennium Dome, that if they say the words “world-class building” often enough we will believe it and it will happen.
Ken Livingstone proclaimed: “This will be the best stadium ever constructed anywhere on the planet.” Forgive me, Ken, but I don’t think those who have been visitors to Athens and Beijing will agree.
A great building needs a great client and this project is urgently in need of someone who demands architecture and engineering with flair and character, and who is not dazzled by every latest computer image. The pixilated walls, it was pointed out, could show the patterns of the flags of every competing nation and shadowy images of famous photographs of great athletes in the past. Big deal. Or the stadium could be covered in fabric, which could be cut up and sold as bags after the Games. Don’t most people make their souvenirs before the event?
A flat-topped coloured glass bowl, surrounded by a web of steel knitting needles just will not do. The basics are there but the engineers, Buro Happold, who are among the best in the world, need to be told to produce a structure that has muscle and athleticism to it and doesn’t look the same from every angle, and looks a great deal more interesting by both day and night.
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The stadium along with the 2012 Olympics will be the biggest and the costliest 'white elephant' this country (England) has ever seen since 'The Big Bang' and Londoners alone will be paying for it for the next generation or two!
I'm sure that within the next 50 years or less the Olympic site will be demolished to make way for 'affordable housing' for our out-of-control increasing population.
Those to benefit now will be Coe, Red Ken all the committees and of course those 'poor, under-fed' contractors - "jobs for the boys". When will we, the public,ever learn?
Nick G., woodford, England
I wonder how much "Joan Mitford of Oakham" and residents within her borough are forceably having to contribute to the 2012 Olympics through their Council Tax??
Nick G., woodford, England
Why do we need spectators at the thing anyway. If there is a gazillion watching on TV, why don't they just digitally add the crowd scenes, like they did for Gladiator. They could use the 500 mil they will save for bigger prizes for the winners, plus maybe 20 mil for a viewer phone in competition.
paul, waterloo,
What a very English way to look at the Olympic Games. In China, it's an opportunity to showcase their new position in the world order. In Greece it's an opportunity to catalyse development. Only in England could the prospect of having the Olympics be 'the kiss of death' or 'a total waste of money'. I hope I'm not alone in having a true sense of excitement for what 2012 will bring. I don't care how much it costs, or what the Stadium will look like - we must make the most of the opportunity to create an lasting experience, and generate a lasting legacy to Sport in our country.
Dale Bilson, Repton, Derbyshire
The design lacks imagination. Yet this is claimed to adhere to the criteria that it must be a legacy for the future. Turning the Olympic Stadium into Leyton Orients' home is most certainly not a legacy, but a complete waste of time.
The cost is rising out of hand. There are very few companies tendering for the builds due to government intervention - all I can think about is the Dome - that waste of money was a disgrace. But at least Blair got a ring side seat to a sham of a British performance. Compare the Dome to the display Sydney put on - at a fraction of the cost.
I was ecstatic when we won the vote . . . now all I feel is worry. We will be embarrassed beyond belief.
And as for a show for the UK - only if you live in Lonon and work for the Labour party . . .
john, preston, uk
Remember the DOME ?
Bernard Parke, GUILDFORD,
An unfunny comedy of errors; flawed concept, flawed location, flawed sport and now a flawed design. London was the kiss of death; ridiculous expense to produce another mothballed legacy for the nation.
Mike Collins, ECCLES, UK
I think the whole Olympic games is a total waste of money,if at the end of it we do not have better sport facillities all around the country,and as no one seems to want the stadium after the games,why not build something that can be knocked down afterwards.
C Roberts, London,
I just think that with so many needs in the world, to waste a load of money on these kind of events is "colective irresponsability"! First of all!!!
Second, and last, if there is NO WAY of avoiding this needless expenditure, it should be at least something special and not just one more massive structure waiting to age so it can be demolished... The design & tecnology to serve the purpose it's built for should the first concern on the conception of it. And the second concern should be the use after-olympics(...) A project that satisfies these two points would be much better...
Helder Esteves, Liverpool, ENGLAND
It looks like a stadium to me, which is what it is supposed to be.
Carl Teper, Jerusalem, ISRAEL
I love sport but this is just yet another waste of money ! while they are closing hospitals etc and services are being cut,
also what a perfect time for the terrorists to create havoc
Andy, pulborough, sussex
The only sports on BBC are; ping pong, bowls, show jumping, athletics, cross country etc , and all have the same thing in common. No other TV company can be bothered to bid for them because the general public have have no interest in these sports. There is not an athletic meeting in the country that attracts any spectators apart from the contestants parents, boyfriends, girlfriends, spouses or children. Every stadium is nearly always empty. Staging the Olympics is a complete waste of public money. It is just an ego trip for the great and the good and an opportunity to jump on the gravy train.
sid greenstreet, london,
So what's going to happen to the stadium once the games are over? Seems like a bit of a waste of money to me!
Jen, Bournemouth,
i reckon the uk olympics will cost us £20bn in the end. a waste of good money if you ask me.
billsmith, congleton, uk
Whatever it looks like, let' just get it built and functioning efficiently in time for the Games. The fat cats aren't building for the future - how many of the olympic structures do you think will be standing and in use a couple of years after the games are over?
Serena Allen, Bristol, UK
How can anybody say that this isnt the best stadium in the planet? They would have to be off their rockers! This has everything ... loads of seats, it's got catering, and floodlights so that it can be used at nighttime too. People are just saying it should look lovely and stuff like that, but that's just cos they never won the olympics like we did.
paul, waterloo,
Its actually a very clever design... the spectators perspective from inside the stadium will be astonishing... the roof supports will be unseen as it is cantilevered over the bowl... plus it looks quite a low level scheme so all onlookers will be closer to the action..
this isn't the guggenheim!
dan, london,
As long as it is not too costly and the environment is not largely affected by the huge amount of energy it takes constructing it and the amount of electricity used for lighting it then go ahead with it. I wonder, was the environment taken into consideration???
The design itself is not original by any means. I think someone made a good sales pitch.
SM, Vancouver,
I don't care what it looks like. Does it function in the manner that the designers intended? That's the point. - Peter Day, Doncaster, UK/ Yorkshire
Why don't you care about beauty Peter? Do you not care about the effect of the built environment on people? Why function only? Why can't you consider one can have form and function together?
Laura Roberts, London, UK
Absolulety brilliant
C. Donaghy, Toronto, Canada
I don't care what it looks like. Does it function in the manner that the designers intended? That's the point.
Peter Day, Doncaster, UK/ Yorkshire
It's nothing more than a prefab which isgoing to be dismantled ater the games and, with a fabric exterior, it has millenium dome undertones. How embarassing; why are we being implored to show our pride in a building that, so far, reminds me of litte more than the flimsy little sheds in my first school?
D B, Southampton, UK
HOK? Well what on earth did you expect? Arrogance (they surely are the most arrogant-with-no-reason-to-be architects on this planet), ignorance, no design talent whatsoever, and a frightening ability to churn out the same old same old. They and Peter Cook - as someone else pointed out who gets PAID by HOK to be one of their consultants anyway so he was hardly going to criticise or change anything they do - have succeeded in embarassing the UK profoundly by this load of architectural tripe.
NB, London, UK
Its just a pale imitation of a coliseum.........how much will remain in that run down area after the Games that is not bio degradeable....due for dismanteling.....or up for redevelopment? Logo was no go and this....tsk
lisaxian, london, england
The problem with this stadium starts and ends with the two main characters behind its design, Rod Sheard and Peter Cook.
The former is an arrogant Australian philistine convinced of his own greatness yet so bereft of culture or design flair that it beggers belief he was entrusted with such an important commissionin the first place.
The later is an old has been who did some interesting drawings in the 60's but has spent the last 40 odd years in academia as he couldn't cut it in the real world of architecture. His only building to date is the appalling glass blob in Austria which boggles the mind in its inappropriateness and poor design.
Beijing's stadium is likely to leave an indelible imprint on the worlds memory following the 2008 Olympics, it is a magnificent expression of a countrys pride, ambition and culture. Picked as the winning design from an international competition, its authors weren't lazy in its conception like the default winning consortium lead by HOK.
Peter Phile, London, UK
It is a lifeless soup bowl and nothing to be proud of. The UK has some of the most creative design talent in the world and needs to use this opportunity to showcase it. With all the experience in building stadia-Millennium Stadium, Wembly, Emirates etc., we have the experience to keep costs down so we should challenge are architects. There is nothing about this bowl that will leave a lasting image in the collective memories of the world, they do not care that we can remove the top sections after the event. Come on UK, you can do better that that.
Manda, New York, NY
You'd think the debacle over the logo would have taught the organisers that revealing what bits of the Olympics will look like in the manner of unveiling the Holy Grail just encourages everyone to point out it's all a bit crap. Who cares what it looks like from the outside? It's the atmosphere that matters.
More pertinent is why we are spending half a billion quid, at least, on a 25,000-capacity athletics arena that isn't good enough for West Ham?
Liam McMonagle, St Monans, Fife
You would have thought they had learned the lesson of the dome fiasco. Buildings on the whole are erected to provide the client with a bespoke environment for specific purposes.
It should be renamed Dome MK2.
philip, Ipswich,
I've never heard of such a farce to be brutally honest! Why was the new wembley not prepared to stage such an event? Why must the government throw taxpayer's money at a venue that will be properly used once, then be trodden when fallen rock bands want to stage a comeback tour?! Spend the money on the NHS or on putting real mechanisms in place for renewable energy to reduce our carbon footprint. A bit of sense PLEASE!
Kenny Jones, Edinburgh,
It would look far better if it was in Paris with France footing the bill for what will end up as yet another white elephant.
Philip Moore, Birmingham, UK
What elation.
I was totally depressed. I was positive it would cost us a fortune well beyond the quoted figure, not improve sport throughout the country and make cronies rich.
Bad Bad Bad
And who cares what other countries think about the Olympics? As a nation our behaviour in practically every other facit of the world stage is deplorable, I am worried about that!
Rex, Christchurch, Dorset
We never win any medals because our athletes cant afford to train, no young athletes are up and coming because the Govt is selling all the school playing fields, and as for benefitting from the stadium in the future, we heard the same thing about the dome, what a farce that was. We all know the script, corruption, peerages, 3 times the original cost, pockets lined, same old same old, but pity the people who live in the area, their poll (oops) council tax will surely rise and rise over the next few years to pay for yet another monumental waste of time
chris, hereford, uk
It looks pretty good to me. London is awash with large stadia, we can't have another massive one empty all the time. Twickenham and Wembley will take all the big occassions. The only shame is that West Ham doesn't want it, presumably because of the loss of atmos with the running track. Have they not seen the Rome derby?!
As for the snipers - Canada you made a complete pig's ear of your chance. Wales and New Zealand - your only claim to fame was rugby and now you're both useless at that.
Mark, Liverpool,
Very boring image.
Urgently requires some flair!
An indictment on the UK
Garry Treleaven, Waikanae, New Zealand
surely we could have come up with something iconic
Dave , West Byfleet,
Surely we have something better to spend our money on?
This island is becoming far too overcrowded.or am I the only person who can see this???
David pope, Chertsey, England
It's just plain ugly.
JOHN CHUCKMAN, TORONTO, Canada
No doubt it will be unwanted after the farce. We only got the Olympics because Blair lied better than the French. Think how much all this wasted money could have been used to encourage sport in the UK. What a waste. Still it is making some of Blair's mates rich.
Rex, Christchurch, Dorset
What the hell is that? It's a trifle, it's a gas container, it's a complete monstrosity! It's like a prison, it's so inward-looking, it doesn't reach out to the wider Olympic Park, or community if we're talking legacy architecture, at all. What happened to the other design that I thought we were getting? I look at this and just want to run some Toilet Duck round the rim.
HG, London, UK
What does it matter what I think!
In this country only the politicians decide things.
And they dont care what the people who elected them think.
Kevin, coventry, england
If they ever have an Olympics event for moaning the English/British will win it every time. It stunning that anybody with an ounce of self drive would ever want to do anything in Britain, why should they, they get nothing but flak.
Ian, Toronto, Canada
If you WANT london to have stadium that is so large and fantastic that it is never filled then go ahead and rant! Personally I am so glad that the first thing they talk about is legacy, the olympics is around for 2 weeks, the lea valley development will be going on for years to come and will benefit thousands of people. The beijing stadium is beautiful but at what a price! London has no need to prove to the western world how expensive and modern it can be, it has a more interest in the reality of what that staium will do for london in 2013. Surely that is a good thing!! I am so disappointed that people in britain are so qick to sneer at a projec that is elegant and sensible!!!
Laura, London,
this will make the dome look like a bargain...
yeah yeah good for uk image, gives young kids an very near impossibe chance while the rest of us wave the flag and pay through the nose.
they're so many desperate needs in the uk that, to me, this wasting of billions is sick...
Tim Blair, Peterborough, UK, CAMB'S
"What has happened to the British where has our pride gone"
Isn't that the point Marcus is making, we should expect better than this. This is an opportunity to showcase the best of British architecture and engineering, something to be truly proud of, this design patently fails. As for 'legacy' surely an 80,000 seat stadium with a host club be it football, rugby or cricket in place would be far preferable to demolishing a world class facility. What has gone wrong with the successful City of Manchester stadium model?
We already have a 25,000 seat athletic facility in this country, in a similar situation, it's called the Don Valley stadium in Sheffield. It offers a vision of the future of this project, a white elephant that is rarely used and hardly ever filled.
Hirsty, Doncaster,
' Ken Livingstone proclaimed: âThis will be the best stadium ever constructed anywhere on the planet." '
As I often wonder, what planet is this twit living on?
A completely uninspirational design. No context except a complete lack of of design intelligence from the ODA and HOK Sport. Huge failure.
Laura Roberts, London, UK
One more success for the Taffia!
Completely confusing the English into arguing over a daft design that will never come in on budget and probably some time in 2050.
There will be only one option. To come begging to the WRU to use the millenium stadium in Cardiff.
And you sensible prople think I'm joking don't you?
Those that don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it's mistakes. I seem to remember something about a football stadium with unavoidable delays not so long ago......
J D S, Cardiff, Wales UK
What has happened to the British where has our pride gone why must we alway always critisize - it started with the logo and now its the stadium............. what happened to the elation of winning the 2012 Olympics!
What does this attitude give to other countries who love to critisize us as a nation.
As for the 'drama of the torch' descending or entering it is important but a minor aspect of 'the games' its the games themselves which will be the feature and I am sure this stadium with prove to be magnificent as will the athletes.
Joan Mitford, Oakham,