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You were denied that try by the television referee in the World Cup final. Does it still hurt?
It's always going to be in the back of my mind. Rob Andrew was speaking to the boys in the dressing room after the final. He had been in a similar situation in 1991 [when England lost to Australia] and said that losing in a World Cup final is something that you will not forget for the rest of your life. Given what happened with that try, for me the memory will only be stronger. (Watch the incident here and judge for yourself)
You said afterwards it was a try. Are you still convinced of that?
I am, absolutely. There was no definite view to prove that it wasn't a try but there were 101 views to prove that it was. In that situation, the benefit of the doubt must go to the attacking side. In any other game, it would have been given.
I don't know how many people have told me that they're certain it was a try. It happens all the time, whether I'm at an event, in the street, or just putting petrol in the car. People will come up to you and want to talk about the try. It's nice that people are interested, that they're passionate about what we did. But it shows you the depth of feeling over the decision.
As a result of it, Sky Sports have placed a camera at a new angle in the corner of every ground in the Guinness Premiership. Was this necessary?
Absolutely. The new camera angle will ensure that there are no more 50-50 decisions. Funnily enough, I scored a try for Sale in an almost identical position at the weekend and it was referred to the television umpire, who was able to give it. If we'd had the same camera in the World Cup final, the decision wouldn't have gone against us.
The Rugby Football Association will publish the results of their World Cup
review next month. Would you like to see Brian Ashton retained as head coach?
I don't want to speak about that.
Lawrence Dallaglio and Mike Catt were keen to give their opinions of Ashton
after the tournament. Were they right to do so?
I believe players have the right to say whatever they want to say. If they
want to say something positive, they will. If they want to be negative, they
will. Everybody should be able to speak their mind. There will be
consequences but they will have considered them beforehand.
England's footballers have been accused of not showing as much passion as the rugby team did. Is that fair?
I don't think it is. What you see on television is only one per cent of what a player is putting in day to day. Yes, footballers will be judged on how they play, just as rugby players will, but I don't think you can make a judgment on the level of players' passion just from watching them on television. That's not fair.
You've played mostly on the wing but played full back for England during the World Cup and have been picked there again for Sale this weekend. Which position do you prefer?
I don't mind. I'm playing at full back this weekend but I've played wing in the last three or four games for Sale. We're fortunate that we have three or four guys at the club who can switch between wing and full back, which can be quite effective.
If I was being highly critical, I'd say I probably need to play a little more at full back. I enjoy it there. I enjoy the freedom of it and running into the line and the other aspects of that position that you don't have on the wing. But I have spent 90 per cent of my career on the wing and had a lot of success there. Playing on the wing is almost second nature to me.
You're speaking at the launch of a new Astroturf facility for the local
community in Stoke. The Times has launched a study of the problems in grass
roots football. Is there anything football can learn from rugby?
I don't know if there is anything they can learn as such. But the grass roots
will improve with as much funding as possible. The more facilities such as
this one the better, in every sport, whether it is football, rugby, cricket,
whatever.
(See The Times' study of grass roots football here)
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There is a definitive photo of Cueto's foot in touch before he grounded the ball. Only Mr. Cueto seem to have missed this. It was published on Planet Rugby a few days after the final. I'm sure they will get him a copy if he asks.
Sandy Rossiter, Gloucester, UK
I loved this article. How much longer is Cueto going to make a fool of himself?! Robert Dineen, did you mean to make a further joke of poor Mr Cueto?!
In a game open to so much interpretation Rugby players live and die by the sword. But only the most die-hard English fans have accepted that this was definitely NOT a try. Cueto should certainly be able to accept one of the few black-white decisions in the game!
GT, Shanghai, China
The try being given may have turned the final and we might have won but the try was not given and we lost the final. I think the players deserve a huge pat on the back for getting so far in the tournament, when earlier on we never looked like progressing from the pool let alone make the final. Was it a try? maybe. Should it have been given? In the interests of attacking Rugby, Probably.
Chris, Wye Valley, England
Wow. Talk about sour grapes. I suppose in Mr Cueto's mind, "that try" would've won them the World Cup. Basic mathematics proves otherwise.
Plato, Cape Town,
Before the final word is spoken on the subject - an article from the Independent Newspaper shows the try technically should have been allowed. Go look if you are interested. But then again, so what....here is an extract
By Hugh Godwin
Published Independent: 28 October 2007
... Expert opinion suggests Cueto was denied a perfectly good score simply by the technological limitations ....
Dickinson spent two minutes and 35 seconds reviewing various camera angles, and did it all again in the referee's room after the match. On Wednesday he confirmed he had relied on a camera at the other end of the field to decide Cueto's left foot made contact with the touchline before the Sale wing grounded the ball. "If you can't prove his foot's out, he must be in," said Dickinson. "But it was out."
The camera concerned would have been about 100 metres away, and five feet off the ground, so not in a flat plane looking along the touchline. Cueto's left boot may have appeared to be on the line.
Richard, London,
I feel sorry for this bloke. So many replays have shown it was not a try, so when he tells us about his '101 views', he's doing an injustice to some of his more distinguished team mates who were gracious in defeat and if I may say so, have achieved a lot more in the English jersey than he ever will. Nobody likes a sore loser - get over it Mr. Cueto. Guys like Jonny, Laurence, Phil will always be equated to legends in most rugby conversations. What will you be remembered as? A moaner? Keep going and it will be a reality.
Thuba, Johannesburg, South Africa
I have to agree with all the contributors who imply that Cueto is doing himself no favours by still calling it a try - and, as we see, he's providing plenty of ammo for all the "the English are arrogant" zealots and bigots out there. Before the match was even over, I recall that Martin Johnson had backed the TMO's call. How can Cueto possibly be so sure without having had a webcam in the toe of his boot ?
I'd be more comfortable about Cueto holding to his opinion if he were also to take the trouble to make a point of saying that the better team won. In the '66 soccer World Cup Final, England scored a "goal" that is now generally agreed to have been a no-goal, but the Germans aren't still whingeing about it - at least not in public: they say it wasn't a goal, but go on to say that England were the better team on the day.
Non-arrogant Pom, Leicester, UK
Before some Cueto-apologist-pedant responds to JJ Wimbledon, the video footage should be stopped at 1:16 as that is when the boot touches the line, by 1:17 it has been raised above the line. But at 1:16 he is out, no try.
David, London,
Hopefully the next interview will be with Phil Vickery who is a bastion for showing humility in defeat. Even the Aussies who are trying to get a dig in after the flack they copped by going out so early will admit that. Cueto thinking he scored is not a reflection on the English being arrogant, I haven't met a supporter yet who thinks that 'try' should have been allowed.
Cueto is an elite sportsman, who may have disillusioned himself and it would interesting tosee if he has the same opinion when he has retired and loses the competitive mindset. He is not a bad bloke, just a guy who missed his dream by a tenth of an inch.
Jimmy, Castle Hill, Australia
The video link to this article on youtube clearly shows on 1:17min, foot dragged across half the line. No try. Get over it.
JJ, Wimbledon,
Mark,
You're lucky you got to the final mate. You could of been denied in a quarter final by multiple questionable non-calls by a referee from the same country as your next possible opponent.
Get over it mate. Suck it up and move on like the rest of us have.
Congrat's on getting to the final.
Glynn Bell, Dallas, Texas
wah wah wah. Put the dummy back in your mouth (both reporter and player) and get over it. I still hear the English complaining over Campese's 'deliberate' knock on in 1991. I just hope that it doesnt take you 16 years to get over what you call 'that' try. Boo hoo. Maybe you can join the English football team for a few pints at the local in their state of misery.
Cameron, Sydney, Australia
There is no "benefit of doubt" rule in rugby so learn the rules.
But as much as I would have like to say it was a try, he was out...just.
Crusaders.Fan, Sydney,
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and he is most definitely not harping on, he was asked a question and he answered. Don't get me wrong even though my heart desperately tells me it was a try I know deep down that a fraction of his boot had clipped a blade of grass moments before he grounded the ball. I think it unfair for you to have a go at him when all he has done is answered a simple question with what he believes is the right answer. Give the guy a god dam break I can't imagine I would be too happy if I was in his situation.
Charlie, 16, Uppingham.
Charlie Drinkwater, Uppingham, Rutland
You were out. There was no Try. No Try was given. Get over it and stop being a wimp! You are now indulging in the 21st Century man's sickness of self dilusion and pity.
Tony, Biarritz, France
This is just embarrassing for all English rugby fans. The English team has been particularly good at representing themselves as wonderful role models by displaying sportsmanship of the highest order - always being gracious no matter what the result. Cueto is proving himself to be an exception by harping on about this - especially given that he was clearly out.
WK, London, UK
Luckily, the English rugby side is not picked on denial and stupidity or Mr Cueto would not play for his country again.
If it looks, smells, feels and tastes like a non-try the it is a non-try
Markus Welby, Compton, Surrey,
Mark Cueto is deluded. His utterances in this matter are simply illogical.
Some geezer in the petrol station tries to engage the famous rugby star in conversation with the first line that comes to mind (which is hardly going to be "that was never a try Mr. Cueto and by the way why didn't you ground the ball sooner?") and for him this is further proof that he wuz robbed.
If a tree falls in the forest but nobody sees it, then did it really fall? Well that might be a moot point.
But as far as Mr Cueto is concerned, it doesn't matter if you can show him a photo of it falling and the dent that it left, as long as he didn't see it can show you 101 other photos of the forest that don't show it, he's proved it didn't happen!
Tony, Swindon, UK
Really? Mark Cueto still thinks it was a try? Really? The tabloids have long stopped crowing about the try that lost England certain victory, and the brief and unsavoury interest of the Eng-errland football turned rugby fans have returned to what they really care obsessively about....Mark, you are on your own. Move on because anyone that knows rugby cannot possibly agree in clear conscience that it was a try.
duncan, London,
What's probably bugging Cueto is that he should have scored whatever the defender managed to do. To me he has got away with the criticism he deserved for missing what in Soccer would be called an open goal. It took him far too long in putting the ball down. You can see pictures where his elbows are still at a right angle with the ball relatively high in the air when good wingers would have already touched the ball down.
David, Kettering,
Mark, I have to side with the others, the try was not a try. I am a winger like yourself, although at a silightly more modest level, and have experienced the disallowed try myself but was sure it was the wrong decision. But what can you do?? Not a thing, move on, score in another game. Hopefully not against Ireland though
dave, enniskillen, northern ireland
Cuento's insistence that he scored a try confirms the stereotype of English arrogance really. And the English wonder why the rest of the world supports any team they are playing against.
Andrew, Perth, WA
Well Greg in London must have some footage that only him and the TMO have. I for one have not seen any footage that tells me with any certainty that his foot touched that line before the ball was down!!!
STEVE, MIAMI BEACH,
Poor old Mark, get over it, it wasn't try. You'll have to loive with it. WE all have to live with some unpleasant memory and many are worse than losing a World Cup Final. Move on Mark or it will eat you alive, trust me I know!!!!!
Jim, Cambridge,
Amazing! How is that someone can live in denial like this? He says there is "no definite view to prove that it wasn't a try but there were 101 views to prove that it was"!! Has he not seen the photographic evidence showing his foot ON the line PRIOR to touching down? Mark - that means you were out before you touched down, which proves that it wasn't a try. Get over it old chap!!
Greg, London,