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Martin Johnson has agreed in principle to take over as England team manager, The Times has learnt. Subject to finalising terms with the Rugby Football Union (RFU), his appointment should be ratified next week. His arrival at Twickenham, which would be after the tour to New Zealand in June, is almost certain to herald the departure of Brian Ashton, the head coach, given that Johnson will have the power to hire and fire as well as control over selection.
After ten days of mounting speculation and clandestine meetings between the World Cup-winning captain and Rob Andrew, the union's director of elite rugby, the most recent of which was held this week, Johnson has, after much thought, indicated that he would find the lure of working with England extremely attractive. Negotiations will continue over his exact job description as well as details of his salary and length of contract. Once those have been resolved, the decision to install Johnson, 38, would be put before an emergency meeting of the RFU's management board for formal approval.
Johnson is still weighing up the options regarding his coaching team. Ashton could conceivably be asked to stay on in the short term and lead England to New Zealand, but whether he would want to is a different matter. Johnson has indicated that he would not be available for that tour because Kay, his wife, is expecting their second child in June.
Pat Howard could be a key figure in the new regime. An experienced backs coach, the former Australia international and Leicester director of rugby knows Johnson well from their time together at Welford Road. Howard, who has also been mentioned as a possible successor to Eddie O'Sullivan as Ireland head coach, is available, having last month left the Australian Rugby Union, for whom he had managed their high-performance unit since returning from England last May.
Graham Rowntree, the former Leicester and England prop, is likely to retain his consultancy role as scrum coach. Whether John Wells, the former Leicester flanker and head coach, stays on as forwards coach is uncertain, creating as it would a Leicester “mafia” at the top of the England coaching hierarchy.
Johnson, who retired as a player after leading England to World Cup victory in 2003, has had numerous offers of employment since, but has been happy to bide his time, enjoy a successful testimonial year and concentrate on lucrative media and corporate work. Despite reservations in some quarters about his lack of coaching qualifications and experience, he is confident that the time is now right to return to the sport.
Throughout the discussions between Johnson and Andrew, Ashton has maintained a dignified silence as he prepares for the two internationals against the All Blacks, with the party due to leave in nine weeks. He does feel, though, that he should have had some input into the appointment of a manager and the failure to include him in the process has left him humiliated and bewildered.
There will be some sympathy for Ashton for the way he has been treated and the circumstances in which he has had to operate. He inherited a coaching team in January 2007 not of his choosing but managed to guide England to the World Cup final in October and second place in this year's RBS Six Nations Championship.
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all very confusing. So wo do we praise if england win and kick if they lose?
Rob Andrew, Brian Ashton or Martin Johnstone, there must be unheard of clubs in teh middle of nowhere with beter management structures than this.
PS - what exactly has Rob Andrew acheived since the drop goal in 96 Worl Cup?
tom, Huddersfield, uk
If you pick your best recent player to be the coach despite having no experience or qualifications for the role, when will Gazza take over the England soccer team?
Gwilym Rhys-Jones, costa del sol, spain
Rob Andrew London
While I agree Ashton has been treated disgracefully however
If you look at the world rankings N.Z are miles ahead of England. Important as it is the world cup is (after the pool stages) only a knockout competition held every four years and like the F.A football cup this year its not always the best teams that get to the finals in a knockout competition. Winning the grand slam in the 6 nations is about consistency and beating each of the other 5 countries. While NZ would have to be at their best to complete a grand slam ( like they did in 2006 here) to say they would struggle in the 6 nations and only SA would compete is absolute nonsense.
We shall see what happens when England and Ireland tour NZ soon and then in the return games in November.
Gareth Williams, Powys,
Dream on Danny, do you really think that White will come in reporting to Johnson who reports to Andrew who reports to Club England who report to the RFU. I suspect he would take the job only if he reported straight to the RFU
David, Kettering,
Andre
Don't discount Jake White - team him up with Johnson and a decent coaching line up (the guys behind Ashton should have been held more accountable for England's patchy 6 nations) and I think there's serious room for optimism - AFTER NZ of course ;-)
Danny Tuckwood, Peterborough, Cambs
I have to agree with Andrew below - the treatment of Brian Ashton has been nothing short of disgraceful. He is a proven coach, with experience as long as your arm who has produced the best set of results since the 2003 World Cup Final. What else can he do?
At most Johnson should have be brought in as a PR figure or under Ashton but the current vague/name your terms deal is ridiculous - and totally unacceptable to Brian.
For God's sake Brian take your leave now, retain some dignity and you may end up with the best England coaching record for the next 20 years! I honestly can't see things getting any better with the new regime....I hope I'm wrong!
And as for the joker who says NZ are a country mile ahead of England - who was in the RWC Final? I think NZ and Australia would struggle in the 6 Nations at the moment - only SA would compete....
Rob Andrew :), London, UK
I feel sorry for Brian Ashton. Most true England fans would agree, that the team have generally gone forward during the last 18 months. Second in both the World Cup and the Six Nations, is a vast improvement on the last setup. However it is still short of where we should be.
Martin Johnson is a legend, and I'm glad to see him being involved. He was a huge figure on the field, and I'm sure he'll be the same off it. However until he gains more experience, I believe he should act as a deputy to Brian Ashton or whoever replaces him. What a man to have involved in a half time team talk!!
Tim, Manchester,
As a Bok fan I am glad that White is out of the picture. Looking what he did with the Boks, I sense that he would know exactly how to take England to the heights that has been latent for so long. So, phew, happy about that one....
Andre Rossouw, Johannesburg, South Africa
It is all fairly inconsequential... England are still well behind all the Southern Hemisphere teams--Argentina, Australia, South Africa and a good country mile behind New Zealand.
tony martin, nice, france
I have to agree with Nik Tilling. Surely it would make more sence for Johnson to work under someone with more experience, taking a more long-term view of the situation. The risk of throwing Johnson into the deepend is that he'll sink or at least not swim well enough. HOWEVER, look at the situation with Roy keane and Sunderland. Dependent on the man, the accumine that the individual has, and having a solid support network in place - this could work! Whatever happens, Johnson is certain to demand more attention from this players than Ashton has been able to.
Dominic, Cheshire,
No mug Johnners, starting AFTER the tour of NZ. The only way from there will be up!!
James, Burnley,
The treatment of Ashton is disgraceful. Shoe-horned into the position. Not allowed to select his own coaching team. Undermined and generally treated very badly. If I was him I would walk away from this farce with immediate effect! As a loyal and patrtiotic man he will doubtless take the team to New Zealand however. I just hope he walks away with a sizeable package from the RFU! As for Johnson ... a leader with no experience. Wonderful! A great player and fine captain but absolutely no experience of coaching or management, and as for the names being thrown around as his lieutenants! Healey? Ditto. And don't get me started on anyone who suggests White or even Howard?! AN AUSTRALIAN RUNNING ENGLAND RUGBY?! ARE YOU MAD?!
Andrew, London,
You must feel sorry for Brian Ashton, who has been treated quite shabbily throughout.
Steve, Warwick,
NO mention of Jake White? - should he be considered, surely this will be in the hands on coaching role, either to replace or support Ashton - not as manager. The role that has been created for Johnson is a new one to sit between Rob Andrew and the coaching team, to act as a controller of England Rugby...
Ryan Yeoman, tadley, Hampshire
Why no mention of Jake White?
Paul Buddery, Queensland, Australia
Agree...Dean Richards should be involved. Johnson could make this call however. If he does, then it will hopefully be the first of many good decisions by a capable leader.
AT, Sydney, Australia
Whilst there can be no doubt that Johnson will have a positive impact on the England set up, and was always destined to (in a managerial capacity), you have to wonder wether he has stepped in too soon. We can only hope that he is given sufficient time in the job; a 4 year contract needs to be put in place without knee-jerk reactions if results fail to meet expectations immediately. England have been in reactionary mode ever since the retirements after the '03 campaign. We have such talent at our disposal right now, and stability is what we need to make the most of that talent. One does wonder why Dean Richards wasn't called in (with Johnson as the forwards coach?). And I say that as a Quins fan.
Nik Tilling, Brighton, E. Sussex