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Martin Johnson: good man, bad news
There was never a worst-kept secret, of course, and there have never been so many newspapers all claiming that they were first to reveal that Martin Johnson had been offered the whole shooting match and total control as England supremo, and was seriously considering it. Hard luck to all our rivals, better luck next time.
One thought strikes me however, when supporting totally the arrival of the great man. It is time for all elite career coaches to re-set their sights. From now on, being the best coach in the country will not bring you the national job.
Brian Ashton lacked the modern-day essentials for the role - he was quiet, restrained, he was unhappy with the media, and mixed messages were transmitted to his team and coaching staff. He admitted to his own shortcomings when asking for a team manager to sort out all the bits he didn't like.
The national coach now needs so much more, and actual coaching experience can become an optional add-on. Johnson may well be able to coach very well; I am positive that he is the man. But authority, power, demeanour and even physical stature are now pre-requisites. Badges and certificates and even trophies, are not.
Six Nations Friday madness
You could say that no-one cares any more. But the fixtures came out today for the RBS Six Nations 2009 and revealed that France will play Wales in what may well be the deciding match on a Friday night at 9pm French time. Friday night.
Some nameless suit from the Six Nations says that this builds on the success of Friday night games in the World Cup - a grisly non-sequitur if ever there was one - and even then, I have never met anyone who likes Friday night rugby.
Do we just give in? Are we as followers of the game now so downtrodden that we hardly care that television is crucifying the joy of attending live rugby?
The local hero
Many of you spend far longer than you really should in organizing, coaching, refereeing and supporting rugby for young people. I don't think I have ever felt quite as bad about the game as when rising from bed at 4 o'clock on a freezing French morning after a Heineken Cup match to check in at 5 to get that horrible 6am flight out of Toulouse to be in London at 8 to get to a frozen touchline at 10. Remarkably, the whole thing was worth it when one player did one thing I had worked on in training.
No doubt everyone in the game below senior level has far more stories of sacrifice than I, and realises just how much hard work it entails. The Really Useful Person was the development officer for your locality appointed by the National Union. The RFU, WRU and SRU always seemed to have lots of them. In my experience they varied wildly in terms of ability, but they were comforting, committed, handy and a focal point, and were a god-send for clubs and schools
Am I right in believing that in these days, when so much is channelled into the elite, when players are identified nonsensically early instead of being allowed to get on and play and love it, when so much resource is thrown at the top end, that our local development officers are suffering, that numbers are fewer and central commitment waning? I hope Johnno gets a fortune to play with his England team but I also hope that keen young thrusters still arrive bearing kit, balls, posters, time and enthusiasm to rally the grass roots troops. They do a magnificent job. I hope your local lads are still out there.
What do you think? E-mail Stephen at rollingmaul@thetimes.co.uk with your opinion and he'll reply to the best of the letters next week.
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>>>>>LIST OF THE WEEK<<<<<
Rugby's finest (most laborious?) clichés: those horribly-fascinating and yet hoary old traditions we loved decades ago and are terrified to let go.
1. The Twickenham Car Park
The champers is on ice, the port is uncorked. Well, in fact it isn't, that was years ago, and the rump of the old toffee-nosed roisterers is looking forlorn.
2. Munster's Fields of Athenry
Get a new song lads. All that "give-it-a-lash" tripe, droning singing and the pompous slogans posted at Thomond are so last century.
3. The Test-week media briefings
Oh great! There's a pre-match press conference today at which Phil Vickery, Brian O'Driscoll, Ryan Jones or Jason White are going to say ... absolutely nothing.
4. Telling-off for the crowd
All right, all right. I know that it's all jolly nice to be able to hear a pin drop when a kicker is preparing. But do we have to be subjected to the pompous PA announcer gravely intoning his admonishment to the supporters and declaring the end of the world, just because somebody coughed when someone kicked for goal. Why don't we all demand silence for the scoring pass as well?
5. We are the champions. Shame!
Can't we dispense with the horrible, samey presentation ceremonies where six blokes bring on a dodgy podium, everyone wastes champagne, incongruous fireworks greet the hosting of the trophy and there is another mini-podium over the other side for sponsors' photos, as We are the Champions blasts out, cringingly loud. These days they call for an over-excited ceremony if someone wants to hand over an egg cup.
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The Stephen Jones Debate
From Brian Browne: Huw Turner made an interesting comparison of the tribal intensity and joy of this week's Heineken Cup against the insipid "nobody-cares franchise against franchise" affairs of the S14.
I don't know whether Brian has ever experienced NZ rugby but I would dispute the "nobody-cares franchise" comment. Growing up in Christchurch I certainly cared a lot about both Canterbury and, with the advent of Super 14, the Crusaders! However, I don't think NZ has ever had, or ever will have, the same outward tribal intensity as you find in England. It is a cultural difference that many people in this country are perhaps not aware of. In NZ we have a small population base to support our game, and in today's climate with more and more sports competing for the public's entertainment spend, rugby inevitably suffers. Despite this, 34,000 people attended the recent Crusaders v Hurricanes match and 18,000 watched Crusaders v Warratahs in a stadium with one side under construction. Do you not find it tiresome to keep harping on about "our competition is better than your competition"? Can't we all just get along? Reuben Casey
SJ: Very fair point, Reuben, and no-one could ever deny the fervency of our home city and province. I would point out that in England there is far more competition for sporting attention than New Zealand could ever dream of - we have this thing called football and one or two people quite like it. Different cultures but both to be respected, as you say.
"The 2005 All Blacks ... were never world class" - Stephen Jones. I'm interested to know what definition of world class is being applied here. In 2005-07 the All Blacks swept all before them. We haven't seen a world class Lions team since the 70s and the 2003 England World Cup side is perhaps the only world class team to come from the Six Nations in the past 30 years. DaveMc, Nice, France
SJ: Definition of world class could be that you reach the final of the World Cup now and again.
"The 2005 All Blacks ... were never world class" - Stephen Jones. In 2005, the All Blacks whitewashed the touring British and Irish Lions 3-0 in the Test series, won the Tri Nations and achieved a second grand slam over the home nations. They also swept the major IRB year-end awards, collecting trophies for Team of the Year, Coach of the Year and Player of the Year. The All Blacks were nominated for the Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year in 2006 for their 2005 performance. What more can a poor boy do? John, Dunedin
SJ: And happily for the rest of the world those results you mention against feeble teams persuaded the All Blacks that they were far better than they were.
Your constant statements about the superiority of English and Northern Hemisphere rugby are amusing, but not particularly accurate. England have played the All Blacks 29 times, won six (twice since rugby went professional in 1995) and lost 22. The Lions have played the All Blacks 34 times, won six and lost 26. Northern Hemisphere nations have won one World Cup, Southern Hemisphere sides have won five. JE, London
SJ: I did say commercial superiority and standard of product - that is, no rows and rows and rows of empty seats.
Is there a petition where rank and file rugby supporters and players can voice their objection to the ELVs and, if not, are you prepared to sponsor one/get one rolling? We, the supporters and grass roots players are the lifeblood and the cash behind the global game - we should have a say don't you think? Chris Hutchings
SJ: Yes Chris. The RFU is launching one and it will be covered in the Sunday Times this Sunday. I think it is somewhere where you can voice your concerns. My view is that all our interests are being blatantly ignored.
I understand that you don't rate Irish rugby. I'm also pretty sure you get a kick out of upsetting Irish fans and reading their horrified replies. But sometimes you just have to give a team due credit. How do you justify a claim that Munster would finish mid table at best in the Premiership? "Because they would have to play 28 top class full-on games every year", you say - would you really consider Leeds, Worcester, Harlequins, Saracens, Bristol and Newcastle top class? Munster are constantly in the top four of the Celtic League with or without their international players, often playing against teams who are closer to full strength than themselves. So there must be depth there. You rate the Premiership higher than the Celtic League for intensity and quality of opposition and so do I. But this does not necessarily mean that the best of the Celtic League is inferior to the equivalent in the Premiership. The only way to gauge the strength of the top teams is when they meet, ie. in the Heineken Cup. And I believe that Munster's record there speaks for itself. You might reply that Munster's level of intensity against Gloucester could not be maintained over 28 games. I agree. The point is, however, that it would not need to be. Over the years they have always done enough to win. I would wager that if you looked back over the Munster games you previewed through the Heineken Cup years you would find that for the majority you tipped the opposition to win, and for the majority you were wrong. How long can you keep underestimating a team before you stand back and see the wood for the trees? Keep writing provocative, entertaining copy and I for one will keep reading, no matter how blinkered you can occasionally be! Eamonn Dunne, Limerick.
SJ: Eamonn, I am afraid that your reasoned argument is totally let down by a lack of appreciation of what is happening here. People who have never experienced the Premiership have no idea of what it takes - you mention a string of teams you do not rate. I can tell you that it is hellish to try to win at Worcester, and they are bottom but one. Say, then a fortnight after that you have to go to Harlequins, then a fortnight after to Bristol, then Saracens, then Newcastle. No days off for Test weeks. It is ferocious stuff and I repeat, Munster would need to buy 12 players - and four props - to even begin to compete.
When are you going to stop your petty vendetta against Irish rugby teams and in particular, Munster? You singularly fail to acknowledge when teams like Munster produce quality performances year in and year out in the Heineken Cup. There was more grudging comment on Munster's fine win against Gloucester and a comment in the Sunday Times about how the Ospreys would have won convincingly against Munster. Boo-hoo, they are out and Munster will go on to win the competition again and begrudgers like your good self may finally eat some of the spiteful nonsense you've written over the last number of years. David Linehan, London
SJ: Why stop when you are enjoying yourself so much?
In sport as in life you play the hand you are dealt. Munster play in the atrocious Magners League because that is the unfortunate lot of the Irish, Welsh and Scottish clubs. This is a tournament that lacks any bite or structure. Leinster will, barring a calamity, win again this year. The reality is that for Munster the tournament which matters above all else is the European Cup. Were Munster to suddenly find themselves in the Premiership, there are a number of certainties: none of the sides would relish the away fixture and Munster would adapt as they have to their current situation and be more than competitive. Let's not take anything away from the phenomenon that is Munster in Europe. The commitment of the players, staff and followers is total and they have done more than any other to make this tournament a compelling alternative to Super 14. Harvey Twomey, Hong Kong
SJ: Toulouse? Wasps? Leicester?
I read with dismay your grudging article on the EDF final. No doubt if Leicester had won there would have been dancing in the streets of their region. Leicester is by far the largest, richest and well supported team in that part of England and have many supporters all over the country. Please stop going on about the Welsh regions. Leicester were poor, yet it never seemed to cross your mind that a mere Welsh mish-mash of a team could out-play, out-think and out-muscle one of the best teams in England. The Ospreys were fitter, defended beyond the gain line and did not allow the Tigers to play. That is why they won. Also, do you know of any website that we, the unheard fans, can write to express our opinion on the ELVs? Who in their right mind would want to get rid of moments like the assault on the Ospreys line by Leicester, its defence, or a maul and an eight-man shove? Peter Brown, Bridgend
SJ: Peter, as stated above, the RFU are about to launch their own website on which you can attack the monstrosity of the ELVs. Perhaps the WRU might do the same. Sorry, but Leicester were tragically bad.
Freddie Michalak might be the darling of Toulouse, but I wouldn't think that he is the darling of most of France. He might be bankable to sponsors and he can play some decent rugby at times, but I have rarely seen such an arrogant and self-centred person. He misses the French jersey? That's a strange thing to say by someone who made many public statements before the World Cup even ended. On French TV he openly criticized Bernard Laporte. He has also said that he was excited to be given the opportunity to play the super 14 in South Africa, because at least THEY know how to play rugby. I hope he stays in Durban and that no Guinness Premiership club will be foolish enough to recruit anybody who puts his own persona before his team's needs. Maybe what he misses most is the so-called fame that comes with wearing a "Les Bleus" jersey. Anne Laboulais, Paris, France
SJ: Anne, my French colleagues would agree 100 per cent with your incisive commentary on Freddie. It does seem that teams find it hard to absorb him into their collective.
Michalak was never my first choice number 10, mainly because I find his kicking out of hand sub-par at international level. In defence, however, I've never seen him shy away from a tackle. He is a very committed defender. He misses the odd tackle but so does Carter and even Wilkinson. But to hint he has an "inability to defend" is ludicrous. As for your comments on the S14 and the ELVs, I've been watching the eight first rounds and it's some of the best rugby I have ever seen. The role and importance of the scrum has increased as it has become a potent attacking platform. Teams will choose it time and again over a quick tap to wear opposition down. But perhaps your idea of a good rugby game is a mud-fest played at 2mph ending with a 6-3 score. Boris, Singapore
SJ: Yes, Boris, it is, when compared to a load of silly pap played in front of dramatically declining crowds.
This year's S14 has been dominated by dogmatic defence, even more cynical slowing of the ball and forwards all over the show. I would have thought that Freddie Michalak would have been right at home after years on this rugby diet. On the ELVs, don't kid yourself that they are being pushed as the saviour of anyone's game here. With the exception of the new offside line at scrums, which serve to enhance them as the rightful attacking weapon they are, they are a complete yawn-fest and have given cynical coaches even more opportunity to kill the game. RobP, Auckland
SJ: Opinions differ as to the five yard line, Rob. I have heard top coaches praising it and castigating it, and I am afraid others are yawning too.
As an antidote to your list of who should not have moved into midfield, I offer one player who has benefited from the switch significantly: Luke McAllister played his age-grade rugby at five before Graham Henry took him on New Zealand's 2004 end of year tour as a 10. Fortunately, injury prevented him from playing, he reverted to 12 for the Blues and is now flourishing one further out for Sale where his flair and addiction to "experimentation" (high risk chip kicks) can be accommodated. Others must be able to think of more - didn't Gavin Henson at one point hanker after the pivot role? What a waste that would have been! Christopher Croft
SJ: Well I suppose I would have to say that the two excellent cases you have produced to disprove my argument must be the exceptions which prove the rule, Christopher!
Maybe Ronan O'Gara would have been a better player sooner in the Guinness Premiership but more likely he would have languished on the bench for years watching guys from NZ or Australia playing in his position. David, Kettering
SJ: Yes, true.
"The Argentina problem is teeth-grindingly frustrating. I suppose the Churchill Cup is a start but there never seems to be the will to make the grand gesture" - Stephen Jones. The SANZAR nations all offered a Test to Argentina during the Tri Nations tournament, although they would not be formally included as an official participant. The reason these Tests will not go ahead is because the Argentina players will not be released from their European clubs. The ball is clearly in the court of the European clubs. Mike Kingan, Southampton
SJ: So you feel that all the Puma professional players in Europe should not have any break whatsoever between the seasons, and should play 12 months a year? I assure you that the SANZAR nations knew exactly what they were doing when they made their empty offer.
After years of searching, I finally found a DVD with the Barbarians v All Blacks 1973. Still a fantastic match, but is it me or does the game look really unsophisticated? Aidan Lavin
SJ: It's not you, Aidan! Sorry to everyone at this point. But for me, that game was never that great and I don't have The Try in my top five.
This area of the e-mail is reserved for your views and boos. E-mail Stephen at rollingmaul@thetimes.co.uk and he'll either agree, disagree, add some insight or come back firing...
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>>>>>HERO OF THE WEEK<<<<<
Harry Ellis, Leicester.
Good old Harry. Not only is he coping with top rugby again after a long injury absence, but he is also looking conspicuously sharp. However, none of this is as impressive as his magnificent attempt to carry out Leicester's obvious game plan against the Ospreys in the EDF final last week. My spies tell me that the plan was up on the wall of the team room. Harry, it read, will play the Ospreys on his own.
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The week in 60 seconds
Thursday:
JOHNSON SACRIFICES CASH FOR GLORY
Brian Ashton is consulting his lawyers as the talismanic former captain begins new era as England manager
Report by Mark Souster
BACK TO BASICS AS JOHNSON SEARCHES FOR CORNERSTONES OF PAST FEATS
Questions will come thick and fast for manager striving to restore the qualities that his England side once took for granted
Report by David Hands
GREAT PLAYER WHO COULD BE A GREAT COACH - BUT DECISION IS STILL A PUNT
The appointment of Martin Johnson is an educated gamble. He has never been a manager, so can his qualities make him a good one?
Report by Owen Slot
Wednesday:
JOHNSON EMBARKS ON FASCINATING JOURNEY
The interest now will be to see whether, initially, the new England manager appears to be conservative or whether he has a radical streak
Comment by David Hands
ASHTON TREATED SHABBILY BY RFU
The former England coach has useful years left in him as a coach but it is hard to see him accepting employment with the union again
Comment by David Hands
JOHNSON MAY WANT KEY ROLE FOR MALLINDER IN ENGLAND'S COACHING TEAM
The Northampton director of rugby is a front-runner for a job as backs coach in the new set-up while Mike Catt is also targeted by the RFU
Report by Owen Slot
FULL RFU STATEMENT ON JOHNSON APPOINTMENT
The RFU are pleased to announce that Martin Johnson CBE has been appointed as England Team Manager with effect from July 1, 2008
Tuesday:
ASHTON DISTRACTED AS BATTLE FOR PLAY-OFFS ENTERS CRUCIAL STAGE
A meeting tomorrow of the RFU's management board could decide whether Brian Ashton has a future as national head coach
Report by David Hands
Monday:
HARLEQUINS REACH DIZZY HEIGHTS TO BOOST PLAY-OFF PROSPECTS
Leeds Carnegie 6 Harlequins 32: the London side record their seventh win in eight games to close in on leaders Gloucester
Report by John Westerby
Sunday:
People throughout British rugby think the experimental laws that could soon be coming to Europe will jeopardise the professional game
Report by Stephen Jones
PREMIERSHIP CLUBS RALLY AGAINST FLAWED THINKING
The shambolic Super 14 competition will not be rugby as we know it and is pushing the game towards another global crisis
Analysis by Stuart Barnes
GLADIATOR JOHNSON FACES BATTLE TO RE-ESTABLISH RESPECT
The supremo-in-waiting possesses a massive rugby intellect and, despite his lack of experience, is on the path to success
Analysis by Jeremy Guscott
Leicester 6 Ospreys 23: Ospreys dominate possession and territory against Tigers who offered a laughable challenge
Report by Stephen Jones
Saturday:
JONES LOOKS TO TWICKENHAM FACTOR TO LIFT HIS FALLEN OSPREYS
Defeat in the Heineken Cup was a shock to the Welsh region and the Ospreys coach wants revenge in their rerun with Leicester
Report by David Hands
Friday:
WALES BREATHE SIGH OF RELIEF AFTER EDWARDS DECIDES TO STAY
Wasps head coach signs three-year deal to remain with grand slam champions as Lions announce their South Africa dates
Report by David Hands
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Things you need to know about rugby: No11
FIXTURE PILE-UP CLIPS LIONS' CLAWS
Everyone is blaming each other for the utter farce of a fixture list that has the Lions playing their first tour game in South Africa on the same day that the Guinness Premiership final takes place back home. The South Africans say that the tour had to be moved to avoid a big soccer event; the RFU say that there had to be enough time after the tour to give the players their proper rest; PRL say that they thought that the tour could be later and the rest period be slightly fudged. What we know for sure is that the Lions' chances are already in jeopardy.
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The odds Ladbrokes bookmakers are offering on Martin Johnson to beat Sir Clive Woodward's record of 23 consecutive England wins at Twickenham.
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