Stephen Jones
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They say that the most vicious knife is the one that stabs you in the back. Graham Henry is under incredible pressure here and it is remarkable how much of it comes from those who once inhabited that utterly false high ground from which they could shout that the All Blacks were unbeatable, would win the World Cup (in 1991, 1995, 1999, 2003 and 2007), that every Kiwi player was the best in the world (including Reuben Thorne and Jerry Collins), that the haka was supremely relevant to anything and that Henry, the New Zealand coach, was a sorcerer - a coaching magician.
The worms are turning at express rate. The fans are becoming foes, among them some professional observers whose grasp of world rugby has been gained only from a New Zealand television set. Some here are savaging Henry and the more ridiculous are demanding that because of his supposed uselessness and because they feel he should have been sacked after the World Cup, that Kiwi rugby fans support any team that the All Blacks are playing.
Those denigrating the coach are therefore uneasy bedfellows with the anti-Henry brigade, among which are those that followed the 2001 Lions tour of Australia when the tourists, led by Henry, crumpled into a heap and lost a series they should have won 3-0. The fact that the Lions persuaded that Wallaby side that they were any good cost Australia the 2003 World Cup because they failed to rebuild quickly enough.
A few important points are raised here. Firstly, in this era when Chelsea can sack a coach who came as close to a fantastic double as one win and a penalty, we should beware of becoming football. Secondly, the Lions lost in 2001 before they left Heathrow Airport . They were on their knees long before the end of the tour and exhaustion, not the Wallabies, beat them. In the first two thirds of that tour they played magnificent rugby and for that, Henry deserves credit.
Henry, for me, is not some kind of discredited old goat. In fact, he is one of the great coaches of the era and can stand alongside Ian McGeechan, Jake White, Shaun Edwards, Warren Gatland, Marcelo Loffreda and Robbie Deans (provided Deans has success in a real rugby event).
With Wales, the Lions and New Zealand , I have always been massively impressed by his teams, his nous, his sharpness and steel. When he was planning the 2007 World Cup campaign with what may just have been the most likely group of players, I feel he let himself be dragged off course, away from things he knew would work, in favour of the reinvention of the wheel. He drifted off in terms of preparation and leadership, in allowing there to be too many bosses, and in failing to curb Kiwi arrogance. His failure was to forget what he had always known.
Win or lose on Saturday in Auckland, I am convinced that New Zealand has the correct man in charge. Graham Henry is still one of the world's great coaches. This is something for his attackers to mull over as they cheer for England.
Captain's jump
It is Career Day for England's captain on Saturday. Steve Borthwick admits that the lineout is of overwhelming importance at Eden Park and admits that he and Tom Palmer and their supporting casts of lifters and throwers have to counter the clever, slick and fast New Zealand lineout.
But is more than a technical bridge towards glory. I have always been anxious about Borthwick's lack of physical bulk, his inability to make much impact as a ball-carrier, a mauler or as a defender on the defensive line. That he is personable, inspiring to his now former Bath colleagues, a lineout leader and vastly dedicated, is not in doubt.
However, he has to prove against a wonderfully physical team and a superb lineout, that he is good enough as an all-round powerhouse lock to make the same impact as, say, Ali Williams for New Zealand or Danny Grewcock, his own former colleague, and also that he can upset a really top-class lineout operation. A dominant game could see him retain the leadership into the Johnson era; something less leaves him prey to bigger and more powerful English locks. It is Career Day, and Borthwick is engaging enough to have us wish him well.
Small blessing in bar from the bar
One bar in the harbour area of Auckland has, so my pals told me, banned both me and Wayne Barnes from entry. There is a sign upon the wall barring the both of us - in Barnes's case, they clearly have an aversion to brilliant referees. On Thursday we decided to check the place out, to see how good they were at enforcing their own rules.
The mission lasted about six seconds. No, there was no move to throw us out. It was just that the place was such an horrendous, dingy, slobbish barn of no distinction, that the only possible reason for staying any longer was to urge them to make it a life ban.
What do you think? E-mail Stephen at rollingmaul@thetimes.co.uk with your opinion and he'll reply to the best of the letters next week.
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>>>>>LIST OF THE WEEK<<<<<
The top five most fraudulent "reasons" to love rugby
1. Because the ball is in play - rubbish. It is in play in the horrible, run-down-the-clock pick-and-drive, but who cares? Let's have shorter and better play.
2. Loads of tries - a try should always be hard to score. Too many tries devalue the whole art-form of scoring.
3. Australians love it - beware. The end is nigh.
4. The All Blacks are sinking - no they aren't and in any case, what on earth would we do without them?
5. It's just like rugby league - God help us. Turn out the lights and buy tickets for Papua New Guinea's next "World Cup" match.
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The Stephen Jones Debate
I do believe there is a future for the Baa-baas in the modern game. The only problem for them is that fixture congestion has made obtaining decent players difficult. I'm a precocious lad of 17 and truly became interested in rugby when I discovered a video of the 1973 All Blacks v Barbarians game and that try. These memories give rugby a sense of mysticism and awe in a time when men played rugby for the love of the game. If the Barbarians are allowed to go silently into the night then it would be a travesty not just for the fans but for rugby as a whole. Guy
SJ: There have been many letters and comments in the same vein, Guy, and the club has been a focal point for all kinds of grand traditions, but I still feel the next steps have to be very, very careful.
I agree, the Barbarians should be kept for one-off celebratory fixtures. Let's pull the plug before the old club's dignity is completely shot to pieces. There is simply too much rugby and Baa-baas games are bound to be the first to suffer. But will these games be axed? I doubt it. While sponsors remain prepared to support such games, while Sky will pay for the rights and its advertisers will buy air-time, the show will go on. Tom Innes
SJ: That is a bizarre thought, Tom, but you are almost certainly right. It's not so much the glory, tradition and style of rugby that keeps them going, but the commercial imperatives of the time. Odd but true.
An incentive for total rugby is needed like Toulouse or the All Blacks at their best, but the ELVs are not it. Also, Lawrence Dallaglio was obviously an England great, but I am utterly amazed how the press has turned a blind eye to the fact he disgraced the England captaincy. As for the argument about great No 8s, the multi-skilled Zinzan Brooke would be a better bet as the best ever. Jerry Collins is obviously not a modern day comparison, Richie McCaw is much more apt - he and Schalk Burger are certainly as good. Hopefully Pierre Spies will fulfil his potential and put them all in the shade. The Baa-baas is a problem without an easy answer - perhaps we need a world dream team. Mike Franklin, St Andrews Uni RFC
SJ: Pierre Spies most certainly has it in him to become one of the great post-war No 8s, Mike, but as Lawrence proved, it is how long you can last, how many trophies you win and how you cope with adversity that is the key, not just youthful promise.
The Baa-baas have changed and not for the better. The game of the 70s you referred to was a cracker. I had the pleasure of discussing this game with Gareth Edwards who said the team, mostly Welsh, had come together with no real game-plan. I asked Gareth what he was thinking as he took the final pass and he said: "Well boyo, you know I had been having trouble with my hamstrings and all I thought about was 'please god don't let them go now'." The point is that what we saw against England was not a group of senior players who were out for some fun. This needs nurturing back. James A Burgess
SJ: It would have been slightly disappointing if Gareth had pulled up lame five yards from the New Zealand line. Thank god he held up.
I have several thoughts on the Barbarians. Firstly, let us not forget last December's heroics against South Africa. Lose the Baa-baas and you lose part of rugby's soul. What would be next? The Lions? Two other unrelated points: the most invigorating moment of a fairly shabby S14 final was the sight of the Crusaders' forwards mauling the ball from near the 10-metre line deep into the Waratahs 22. And no mention of that Gareth Edwards try should be allowed without commenting on the blatant forward pass that got him the ball! Christopher Croft
SJ: I once asked Georges Domercq, the referee, if he thought the pass had been forward. He shrugged. He said that maybe it was, but who was he to stand in the way of history. Bless him.
Your reference to bawling commentators at rugby matches was welcome by me at least. I attended the Guinness Premiership final and the 150-plus decibel commentating during the match was dreadful. Why do these clowns have to tell us who scored and what the score is. I found the noise in the Millennium stadium even worse. Jeff Higham
SJ: Jeff, I bet the crowd were really glad that the announcer put out an appeal with about 15 minutes to go and the match at stake for the supporters to get behind their teams. They'd never have thought of that if he hadn't mentioned it.
I'm a new fan of rugby and have fallen in love with the sport. I'm an American in the Middle East and there was either soccer or rugby to watch. I chose the better and manlier of the two sports. I have engulfed myself into learning about the Barbarians and have read many great stories of their stylish play. What I noticed in the Ireland and England matches with the Baa-baas was the lack of any real team speed, any kind of game-plan and their lineouts were bad. I understand that the Barbarians are known for their open style of play and I believe they can again be a force to be feared and a pleasure to watch. David Cantu, Thumrait, Oman
SJ: David, one of their great tenets is that they don't do much training. Even their own song says: "For the rugby game we do not train." So there will be the odd game when the basics break down, I fear.
For a long time now I have been disillusioned with the lack of quality in Baa-baas games. I feel it has become a pay-day for old foreign players with no end-of-season tour. However, last Sunday's game against England had nothing going for it. England fielded a weakened side, Dai Young went for pragmatism over entertainment and George Clancy's shrill whistle dominated the game much like it does in the Magners League. Paul Buttress
SJ: I agree, Paul, and I think that this is the reason why the debate on the Barbarians has suddenly become rather more urgent.
Stephen, if the inspirational Gareth Edwards try in 1973 is no longer in your top five, what is in your list? The only try in comparison is the French one "from the end of the world" which secured their series win in NZ. Still, that one remains in second place. Both were against the best national team in the world and both under great pressure. The Edwards try had the greatest beginning and end with sublime handling skills in the middle. I simply would like to know how you measure against that. The interesting fact now is that in today's laws the move would have been halted with the high tackle on JPR Williams. The other interesting note is that the then Baa-baas were all-British rather than the international side of today. If they returned selection to all-British then the end might not be nigh. Paul Jenkins
SJ: Paul the try "from the end of the world" was in the last minute of a true Test match, it was away in New Zealand, it came at a time when defences were so much better and, frankly, look where it started. It began with Philippe Saint-Andre miles behind his own team, and the first thing he had to do was take the ball up so that he was at least among friends. Let's move on, the Barbarians try was a dream but it has frequently been surpassed since.
Is it just me who is disgusted by the Tigers' behaviour over their coach, Marcelo Loffreda? I've been going to watch Leicester for the last 25 years but I'm seriously thinking about not renewing my membership. We have had a disappointing season, but to lay the blame solely at Loffreda's door is totally unfair. Leicester's actions remind me of a certain large Spanish football club who think that they've got a god-given right to win every piece of silverware going. Nathaniel Wilde
SJ: Good point, Nathaniel, it did seem fairly brutal. Only the insiders at Tigers know if they rather cruelly lost patience or if there was some kind of deep fault-line. But I found it very, very harsh.
Am I the only one that thinks Josh Lewsey must have said or done something, or committed some other rugby faux pas, following the World Cup semi-final? This surely is the only explanation for his continued absence from the England squad despite his club form and the dire performances of some of the incumbents. Simon Lascelles
SJ: Simon, for definite there is you, me and Josh. I am sure there will be thousands of others. For me, it was the worst England selection call of the last five years, bar none.
You say opposition to the ELVs is total and yet a lot of the feedback you receive is for them. The main reason opposition is strong in the UK is due to parochialism and fear. The ELVs do have a great deal of support among thinking rugby supporters, even those in the UK. Regarding the rolling maul, if collapsing them is really so dangerous, why aren't people being sent off and where are all the injuries? And finally, on the weekend I did see a player injure his neck in a maul - a maul which had not been collapsed - does this mean we should ban mauls all together? Nick
SJ: Next time a child is mangled under a collapsed maul no doubt you and the IRB will send them a "get well soon" card to stick to their wheelchairs. There's a great deal of support amongst thinking rugby supporters? They must be in the Outer Hebrides.
I was wondering after reading your latest post why an experienced rugby commentator such as you doesn't find an England tour to New Zealand a particularly exciting concept? Perhaps New Zealand and England need some kind of trophy to contest each time we meet, just to spice things up a little. It can't be put down to distance or England's relative lack of success in the Shaky Isles, as similar reasons haven't stopped the Ashes rivalry developing one bit. Then I deduced that it must be because of No 2 in your ten reasons to love the dear old Kiwis. Principally that we are actually quite a nice bunch and that getting wound up about such a silly game with such a lovely group of people just isn't as much fun as getting wound up about the Welsh, French or Aussies! Richard Campbell
SJ: None of those Richard. It's about the greatest rock star in history at the greatest stadium. Full stop.
The weekend Tests were highly significant for two reasons. Firstly, the NZ v Ireland match revealed that the ELVs aren't needed to improve the in-game contest. What is needed is appropriate refereeing, specifically in the scrum. It is unfathomable that referees refuse to rule on angled put-ins. If the scrum was refereed correctly then there would be no need to have a 5-metre bulwark. Secondly, the South Africa v Wales game reiterated that fast and powerful back row forwards are fast becoming the most significant players on the pitch. Hence the All Blacks v Ireland game was close because both teams have comparatively powerful athletes and the South Africa v Wales game was not because Wales have under-powered forwards. Ryan Jones is clearly a very good player but more in the mould of a quicker Dean Richards. The athleticism of players such as Juan Smith, Pierre Spies, James Haskell, Tom Rees, Tom Croft, Richie McCaw, Jerome Kaino, David Wallace, Jamie Heaslip and many other also negate the need for the introduction of the ELVs. Ben Saunders, Beckenham.
SJ: Absolutely top post, Ben, I cannot disagree with any part of it and the IRB now agree in part as they have insisted that the breakdown area is refereed properly for once. I also think the game for all shapes and sizes is out of the window, too, which is a bad thing - your list of running monsters proves it.
Can you suggest to the authorities a game between the winners of the Super-14 and the winners of the Guinness Premiership? It may serve to even out the feelings of Northern Hemisphere v Southern Hemisphere rugby. What about the winners of the Tri-Nations v winners of the Six Nations? John Wilson
SJ: Both ideas are very strong, John. The problem is that the team travelling would be at a disadvantage. To squeeze them into a nonsensical season is also hard - you would have to start cutting existing fixtures first. You could play in Hong Kong or Dubai, but that would exclude the real fans.
I can't help but think that Rob Andrew's focus on the 2011 RWC is off the mark and counter productive to the health of English rugby. A better attitude, surely, is that each game matters and losing should be a personal and team disaster. That used to be the Kiwi approach and it worked very well for them until they appointed Graham Henry who wanted to impose more structure and planning to win a RWC. The way to enjoy every season and have a greater chance of winning the RWC is to get used to winning and hate losing and bet the house on each and every game. Copy Wasps' mentality if you like. Brian Browne
SJ: A man after my own heart. Treat every defeat as a disaster and soon you won't be suffering so many defeats.
It was the worst Barbarians match I have seen for many years. I don't know how Martin Johnson is going to sort the team out. England's main problem was summed up in two words "slow ball". The Southern Hemisphere element of the Baa-baas were clearly tasked with a bit of pre-Test knobbling. Some of the incidents, including several that occurred right in front of the referee, were nothing short of butchery and possibly infringed the Geneva Convention! Andy L, St Helens, Lancs
SJ: It seems the Barbarians are no longer above the odd cynical tactic, Andy. Dire game, you are correct.
This area of the e-mail is reserved for your views and boos. E-mail Stephen at rollingmaul@thetimes.co.uk and he'll either agree, add some insight or come back firing...
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>>>>>HERO OF THE WEEK<<<<<
Marcelo Loffreda
Dignity. There is never enough of it in sport. Marcelo Loffreda is not only good enough as a coach to weld the disparate elements of the Argentina squad, drawn from so many different countries and playing cultures, into what I feel at the end of last year was amongst the top two teams in the world, at worst. He did the job with dignity, approached his new role at Leicester with dignity and has departed, after a short time working under impossible conditions, with dignity. He is a great man and he continues to do himself, and his nation, proud.
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Things you need to know about rugby: No 17
PUMAS CAUGHT IN A CAT FLAP
How odd. The Pumas are currently engaged in a Test series against Scotland at home, a brilliant chance for them to parade themselves before their adoring new followers and their first homecoming after their World Cup heroics.
So why, oh why are they not fielding their best players for this great opportunity? In particular, why are there no French-based Pumas? After all, Regulation 9 of the IRB allows them primacy for their players over French clubs.
Answer: the French clubs have retained their Pumas for the final rounds of the Top-14, blackmailing the Pumas by saying that if they do not kick up a fuss then they will "release" their players for a one-off Test in South Africa in August (when all European-based players are meant to be resting).
So the Puma heroes are being used and battered and remain at the back of the queue. That's what comes of thrashing France twice in the World Cup!
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