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All night drinking sessions with Bjorn Borg, promotional tours with Kylie
Minogue and Jason Donovan, and Concorde trips with Maggie Thatcher. Producer
Pete Waterman has done it all during his career as one of the most
successful entrepreneurs in the music business. Waterman, 60, was one third
of the phenomenally successful hit-making trio Stock, Aitken and Waterman,
which made profits of up to £25,000 a minute during its heyday in the late
1980s.
Now, SAW is reforming 10 years after they split and Waterman, who wrote a
string of hits, including Kylie's ‘I Should Be So Lucky’, is promising more
of the same. He commutes from his home in Warrington to central London on
the train twice a week and has travelled the world promoting his acts and
dealing with record companies.
How did you know Bjorn Borg?
He used to come into our offices to play table tennis with Mike Stock. It was
just two incredibly competitive men trying to kill each other on the table
tennis table. Borg was the biggest party animal I ever met. I thought I
could party until I met him. He took me out all night in Stockholm once and
we got back about 7am. I could hardly move I’d had so much to drink. He took
off his clothes, jumped in the lake and started swimming, and then came back
for more drink. Three weeks later he won Wimbledon.
Were the stars a pain to work with?
No, because anyone who was a pain didn’t last five minutes with me. We were a
small company and the night watchman was as important as Kylie or Jason. The
singers were the goal scorers in the team, but we were all part of a team.
Tell us your funniest Jason and Kylie stories
I often travelled ahead of them on tours. If we were promoting a record, I
would go first to do a deal with a record company or interviews, because we
were as famous as the singers at one point. I had an E-type Jaguar and Jason
loved it and, in the summer of 1988, he asked if he could borrow it. So, we
were out in it one day and he pulled into a garage in this white, series 3,
V12 E-type. Two girls noticed it was Jason and ran straight into the E-type
and fell on the bonnet. It was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. Jason is a
lot of fun to be with; he’s a man’s man.
No-one could ever pronounce Kylie’s name correctly. She was Keeley in France.
I can remember on tour in Japan at the Tokyo Dome and 100,000 people were
singing back to her “I should be so rucky, rucky, rucky, rucky…”
Rick Astley’s a lovely lad but just didn’t want the fame. He told me people
come up to him in the street and say ‘Didn’t you used to be Rick Astley?”
Were you travelling much of the time?
From 1972 to 2002 I just lived on aircraft. I remember feeling ill and I went
to see the doctor, who asked me where I’d been that week. I said Monday was
Tokyo, Tuesday was Sydney, Wednesday Tokyo, Thursday back home and Friday
Tokyo. He said ‘I don’t think we have to look at why you’re not well, do
we?’ I had to stay at home for a month and it was one of the nicest things I
ever did.
Which airline do you prefer?
I always go British Airways.. I used to love Concorde and commuted on it to
New York every two days for a month. I knew the pilot and once got stuck on
the M4, so I phoned him and he held it for me. On one trip there was
Margaret Thatcher, Diana Ross and Victor Kiam, the bloke who liked the
company so much he bought it. The pilot made an announcement saying this was
the only aircraft to land by computer. Then when we were at the airport, the
automatic walkway got stuck and I had to clamber down some steps behind
Maggie. She was cursing the technology, blaming the French of course.
Was that your favourite flight?
I can remember listening to David Bowie’s China Girl, which I love, when
Concorde took off once and it felt like the most amazing four minutes of my
life. That was the best. The worst was when I was on a flight to Tokyo and
we were about to take off, when the door fell off at the back. They were
playing “I Should Be So Lucky”. What are the odds, eh?
Which hotels do you prefer?
I’m quite fussy about hotels. My pet hate is staying in a British hotel on a
Saturday night when they’ve got a wedding party, because the soundproofing
is so poor and you don’t get any peace. It’s a disgrace. I like somewhere
quiet and with cotton sheets and a comfortable room. I don’t really need
internet access or a television. The Mandarin in Hong Kong and the Takanawa
Prince hotel in Tokyo are marvellous.
Is commuting a pain?
I love the train, it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve been a commuter since 1972.
I can leave home at 7am and be in my studio at 9.02am. Just over two hours
door to door and I’ve had a sleep, scrambled egg on toast and done su doku
in The Times. What more could you want? Of course, I have had kids
coming up to me and giving me tapes or singing at me, but the staff are
pretty good at trying to protect me. It’s a myth, you know, that someone
randomly sings at a producer and gets a record deal. It’s never happened
with me.
Do you ever drive?
I drive once a month, and tie it in with going to a Walsall game on the way
back, because I’m a season ticket holder at the Bescot. I’ve got a BMW X5,
but I do actually live on a farm, so don’t give me any stick. I’ve also got
a 4.2 litre Mercedes which I’m looking to change. I could be politically
correct and tell you that it’s the carbon emissions that are driving me mad,
but really it’s the price of petrol. I don’t care how much money you’ve got,
you can’t ignore the way the petrol gauge moves when you’re only getting 12
miles to the gallon. I need a tanker to follow me down the M6 so I can fill
up on route. It’s immoral and I’m ashamed of the amount of petrol I use,
even though I’ve racked up some carbon credits with all that train travel.
Do you have any tips for travellers?
Be a light packer. Take a change of clothes, but if you’re going for two to
three days, you certainly shouldn’t be checking much, if anything, in. Also,
learn to sleep on flights. A mate of mine is permanently in the air flying
to different time zones and he just gets on and gets his body in the zone.
Alcohol is a killer on flights, so avoid that and keep food to a minimum. I
like BA’s light bites that they’ve introduced.
What would you change?
I hate all this frequent flyer card nonsense and lounges. It’s rubbish. If
people travel a lot, give them a discount.
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